Seattle Sounders Loan Miguel Montano To Montreal Impact For 2011 Season
by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 15, 2011 11:33 AM PDT
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The Seattle Sounders officially announced that Miguel Montano has been loaned to the Montreal Impact for the remainder of the 2011 season. The 20-year-old was in Seattle on a loan from Argentinian side Quilmes.
"Right now I wasn’t seeing playing time for him here," Sounders coach Sigi Schmid said after training on Monday. "He’s a young player and so that obviously, everybody deals with confidence and little bit differently but for him as a young player I think he needed to find his confidence and he needs to go to a play where he’ll have the opportunity to play more regularly. I didn’t think we had enough reserve games coming up. I didn’t see him playing in these games and just for him to be able to get some confidence and find some consistency."
Montano has shown glimpses of quality at various points during his Sounders career, but has also been prone to mental errors that have helped keep him off the field. His most notorious moment was getting red carded during his only start of the 2010 season when he threw a retaliatory elbow at FC Dallas' Brek Shea. He has only played in two MLS games this year.
The move will likely mean Montano will have a chance to see his first extended action of the season. Most of Montano's playing time has come during Reserve League play where he has one goal and two assists in eight games. The Sounders don't have another reserve game scheduled until Oct. 11.
The Impact, on the other hand, are in the midst of a so-far disappointing NASL season as they prepare to join MLS in 2012. New coach Jesse Marsch will likely be treating the loan as an extended trial.
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Montano here on loan?
I guess I forgot that part. So we loaned out a player we borrowed from someone else? I wonder what our motivations were for signing Montano on loan in the first place? If it was for developmental future, you’d think that would be a purchase instead of a loan, right?
How long do we have Montano on loan for?
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I think we got montero on loan initially too.
I think it is common trial thing.
He's here on a free loan
AFIK that’s how it’s been since Day 1
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 15, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
loans?
Do the owners also retain rights to force a move since they technically “own” the player? It’s probably a mutual decision on both parties in the interest of Montano earning the ability to be drafted get more playing time and more money, well more money for the contract owners.
I don't hold that elbow against Montano
since it was directed at Brek Shea.
by Philip Mueller on Aug 15, 2011 12:13 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Brek Shea used to irritate me
But he looked very dangerous vs. Mexico last week. I hope he blossoms into what the MNT needs.
Expansion draft implications
As mentioned in previous thread maybe this loan has the seeds of a gentleman’s agreement regarding the expansion draft. If this ends up protecting Fucito, Nagle and Friberg color me happy.
I'd be a bit surprised as we have one of the best rosters in the league
and the Impact would have to believe they could get someone better than Montano from us. OTOH, RSL has a spectacular roster as well, and have been practically untouched in the last couple of expansion drafts, so wierder things have happened.
The guys I'm most concerned about losing are the Neagles, Carrascos, etc
Guys that aren’t in our starting XI but clearly could be starting on another team – especially an expansion one.
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 15, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course if they get Montano on a free
They could use the draft pick they would have used on a Sounder to get an equally good player from another team and be a player ahead.
Montano is on loan - not a free
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 15, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Run a quick expansion draft protection list
Going by recent expansion drafts the Sounders will be able to protect 11 players and must protect at least 3 international players if 4 or more are under contract.
Montero
Alonso
Flaco
Rosales
Friberg
Hurtado
Parke
Neagle
Carrasco
Zakuani
Riley or Fucito
Then it’s a question of which way Montreal decides to go youth or experience. Point is that without Keller on the books the Sounders should get through the expansion draft OK regarding their young talent. I believe that Tetteh will also be protected due to the Gen Adidas rules.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 15, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Some things
I like your list, but:
-I doubt Seattle protects Riley.
-I hope Seattle doesnt protect Carrasco. I’m not as high on him as some others have been. I would much rather have someone like Brad Evans than Carrasco
by SeahawksPhan on Aug 15, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Evans is our 3rd most scoring player
Which I find interesting because it seems like he hasn’t played in ages
Yea, that is surprising knowing that he's missed like...10 games already?
But out of his 4 goals, only 2 of those goals were from play (2 were from penalty kicks). Now…I know that with our penalty struggles, Evan’s 2/2 looks godly, but still, they are penalty kicks.
by SeahawksPhan on Aug 15, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
But I get your point
Hopefully Rosales will be up there soon. Maybe Neagle too if he continues getting play time.
by SeahawksPhan on Aug 15, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
What's crazy is Montero and Evans have scored the same # of goals with their feet from the run of play this year
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 16, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
His head IIRC
1 vs Colorado… 1 vs Columbus?
^^ This
I got that statistic from Mayers; not my own homework.
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 16, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
I doubt they protect Riley as well. But the Sounders are thin at his position so I basically conceded that they may make that choice.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 15, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Carrasco
fills in as a solid Alonso backup, which is sorely missed last season. If they lost him, they would need to replace him immediately, so I could see the point in protecting him. Evans, regardless of his performance, is probably more expendable because of his injuries and our surplus of other mids.
We now have Amadou Sanyang as a backup for Alonso.
I would prefer him over Carrasco anyway. Carrasco is probably too small to be a DM in the long run.
But I think a good protected 11 would be:
1. Montero
2. Zakuani
3. Fernandez
4. Alonso
5. Evans
6. Parke
7. Hurtado
8. Riley, Wahl or Gonzalez
9. Rosales
10. Friberg
11. Neagle, Fucito or White
The mechanics of an expansion draft
Don’t have any problems with your list from a player stand point. But expansion drafts don’t work on a strictly skill level bias. White and Evans would be huge risks from a draft perspective due to their injuries. Riley, Wahl and Gonzo are all likely to make it through many expansion drafts, particularly if the drafting team sees a young player option. Neagle, Fucito and Carrasco are all high value expansion draft targets. Relatively low cost young players with huge upside potential. Leave any of them exposed and they’re gone. Look at last year. Riley was exposed and Sturgis and Nyassi were taken. Riley has earned many more minutes this year than both of them combined.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 15, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I haven't seen Sanyang play
so I don’t know where he fits in, but Carrasco is a known commodity that Sigi seems to have confidence in at the DM role. I don’t see Evans being protected simply because I don’t see him actually getting drafted by Montreal. Not because I think he’s less valuable than Carrasco, but as I said earlier, due to his injuries this year, in addition to our surplus of midfielders. I could see it coming down to protecting Neagle or Fucito though.
Carrasco's the same size as Alonso
Gives an inch, 5 pounds heavier according to the club roster
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Re: Sanyang - How can you prefer a player you haven't seen play?
Also you guys doing the protected XI lists are forgetting keeper. Sure, Keller will be gone but we’ll have signed another keeper by then. If it’s Marcus you’ll probably want to protect him too.
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 16, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I would
assume they won’t sign a keeper until after the season is over, meaning they wouldn’t have to protect one. I don’t see why they would sign a keeper now and actually put him on the roster (4 keepers?). This is unless they feel the need to protect Boss or Ford.
Would they ever use their pick to take Ford
If they figured they could just sign Meredith outside the expansion draft.
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by Little old me on Aug 16, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Seattle has Meredith's MLS rights for 2 years
Montreal would have to compensate Seattle.
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Interesting
If Meredith is not on our roster, he can’t be taken in the expansion draft- correct?
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by Little old me on Aug 16, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Portland took
Findley’s so I don’t see why not, but I don’t really see Montreal realistically being in that situation.
Evans vs Carrasco and an expansion draft
Due to Evans health issues over the past two seasons he has a much higher probability of sliding through an expansion draft than Carrasco. If Carrasco is available, he’s gone.
Timing of transfers
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the expansion draft is in November just after MLS Cup, right? That could be bad timing for us, as we won’t know for sure who will be sold during the January transfer window.
I’d hate to lose Fucito and then have Montero gone six weeks later. Similarly, it sucks that we’ll have to protect someone who won’t be on the team the following spring (Fredy, Ozzie, maybe Flacco). But I guess in that situation we’re protecting our investment, which will lead to future acquisitions for the team.
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