Adrian Hanauer Still Sees Change, No Percentage Chance Given
There are two deadlines coming up for the roster. The first is the more well-known summer transfer window that shuts on August 14th. The second is the playoff roster eligibility deadline, or more simply the MLS trade deadline. That ends on September 15th. Both will, and should lead to roster changes for the Seattle Sounders according the General Manager and Minority Owner Adrian Hanauer in our chat today.
Trades seem a bit more common now, and even Supporters Shield contenders are acquiring pieces from within as FC Dallas just added Maicon Santos from Toronto FC for Eric Avila. The New England Revolution added a DP. Hanauer will explore both options, and is currently searching for the right fit. We discuss that, the ability to keep/bring back Americans in MLS and the complexities of trading in a tight salary cap. He isn't willing to give you a percentage chance of adding talent though.
Adrian Hanauer: I'm not a percentage guy when it comes to these things, but definitely we are still working on things. I'd still anticipate that our roster will look differently when the transfer window closes. But these deals, especially when you are dealing with South American negotiations/agents, European negotiations/agents, other clubs they can be very complex and time consuming. We're still working and we're hopeful.
SaH: With past Designated Players or other high salary players that have been brought in some teams are now looking at short term 6 month adds and figuring out where it goes after that, maybe a loan and then something different. Do you look for the next 6 months, for 12, for 18, 24?
Hanauer: In general our strategy we're going to aim for younger players who are going to be with us for a number of years. That said I actually like the 6 month strategy with an option, or 12 months with an option, 18 with one. Which creates some incentive for the player to come in and perform. That's one of the challenges that we in the League are trying to get our arms around - how do you get the right player who has the right set of motivations coming into our league. How do you make sure that a player who is done with international play, he's won everything in Europe or South America, who's played for big clubs; how do you make sure that when he comes to MLS he is adequately incented and motivated to be a great guy for the team and win championships for your club. That's something that we're all going through and one of the interesting ways to get your arms around that a little bit is a loan with an option. Not to say that's where we're headed but I as I thought it through I like that strategy as well.
SaH: We had talked once about Americans returning, and we haven't seen that influx during this transfer window. Several of the younger players have found clubs, where a guy like Freddy Adu is still out there. Do you think the League needs to provide some incentive to bring some Americans back? Preston Zimmerman was just talking about how they build a wall basically and try to keep every German in Germany.
Hanauer: Whether it is incentive for bringing players back, or whether it's tools to keep Americans here into their second and third contracts so a guy like Stuart Holden doesn't get away. Yura Mossissyan, Ricardo Clark those guys. And there's another crop coming behind them. Some of the salary cap management challenges - I don't want to say they've prohibited us from keeping those players - but they make it challenging.
I sit on the competition committee and those are some of the conversations we have. How do we evolve our youth system and sure that some of our young players aren't stolen from under our noses, which is happening. How do we retain our good, young American players. How do we improve our hit rate on bringing foreign players and make the integration system better? How do we improve our Designated Player hit rate and make sure that we're also increasing butts in seats and TV ratings through some of those Designated Player acquisitions? Do we bring US National Team players back, or other quality Americans?
It's part of a big, overall strategy aimed towards making this one of the top leagues in the world in the next 10 years. It is obviously highly complicated and ultimately if everyone was willing to spend 100 Million Dollars a year on payroll it would be a lot easier. But we have a business that has a certain amount of revenue and we're trying to improve our quality commensurate with how we are improving our business overall.
SaH: The last question is the trade deadline [September 15th] is another way to improve the club. Plenty of teams have swapped talent and trying to rebuild on the fly within the League.
Hanauer: Certainly. Concurrent with our discussions abroad are discussions within our league. That's an on-going thing, that probably ramps up as you approach the trade deadline.
SaH: From draft day until September 15th?
Hanauer: Exactly.
SaH: When you look at that, is it about bringing in talent or freeing up cap space?
Hanauer: We're open to all of it it. One of the things you find in our league is that literally every day we're on the phone with if not five, multiple teams, and they're making offers for our talent and we're making offers for their talent. Sometimes they're offering a player, or a draft choice, allocation money. Sometimes we're doing the same. But you also see how few transactions get done because every body is looking for something that they perceive as more value for something they perceive as lesser value.
Turns out the other team sees it that way as well and they don't want to give up higher value for lesser value. It's a challenge to do transactions in our league. Again with the way the cap works, most teams are managing so close to their cap that it's almost impossible to move a guy that's making 300 thousand dollars for a guy that's making 100 thousand dollars. You have to bring as much cap space on as your are moving off. Again those usually don't match.
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I thought a loan made sense
“That said I actually like the 6 month strategy with an option.” For example, Man City and Chelsea have plenty of strikers to loan and we have moving puzzle pieces for next year— returning Z and OBW to full fitness, and need a new keeper. I bet we rent with option to own.
by Brougham Hooligan on Aug 2, 2011 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
Loan
I disagree, his comment of “In general our strategy we’re going to aim for younger players who are going to be with us for a number of years” appears to be saying that if you’re going to bring in an older guy from another league, then this is the way to go, but our organization typically tries to bring in younger players. We have the money from NKufo to bring in another DP, and with Kellers salary being so high (250k), we’ll have the cap room to sign another GK next year, so that shouldn’t have anything to do with the Striker position……
Interesting quote
Almost seems like he’s touching on the “retirement league” issue here:
“That’s one of the challenges that we in the League are trying to get our arms around – how do you get the right player who has the right set of motivations coming into our league.”
He seems to be saying basically that getting a big contract to come to MLS doesn’t necessarily come with the quality one would hope. I think the history of DPs has confirmed that. Not sure we really had that problem. Say what you will about Ljungberg but he was a worker. Nkufo seemed to disagree with his role, but not necessarily the desire to play at a high level. But there have been some serious flops around the league as well.
Wasn't Nkufo kind of out of the blue last season?
Seems like they could be playing coy again, and suddenly announce a high impact signing before the end.
I do seem to remember having some kind of clue that Fernandez was being sought (we all knew he played in the WC for Uruguay prior to him being named)
Right on Flaco
He was signed in the window, with about a week of rumors ahead him. Nkufo was signed outside a window, in March, but there still were weeks of rumors before he signed. That is why it is odd with our rumor mill winding down and not up right now.
by Brougham Hooligan on Aug 2, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Both Flaco
and N’kufo originally started as rumors before seattle announced them. Seattle announcing a high impact signing with no rumor attached would be kinda strange.
Exactly
why I’m somewhat concerned at the moment. Let’s hope they’ve just learned how to keep things quiet.
It takes a ton of people to keep quiet
Operational Security is hard enough when you only have to worry about one side, but there are other teams, agents, etc involved it is near impossible.
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No
kidding I’m surprised things are rather quiet.
This is why I'm slightly worried
Most every other transfer we’ve had, there were whispers or rumors or something that “leaked” along the line. Either we’re looking at a first-time for complete secrecy, or nothing significant is in the pipeline.
Hoping for the former!
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 3, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
rumorless
It has been real quiet for about a month now. I would love to see a big move.
by Kevin Higginbottom on Aug 2, 2011 7:52 PM PDT reply actions
I was searching Prince Tagoe
There are a few recent articles saying he should be on his way out of his club for sure by end of their transfer window however, they have not found a club for him yet.
This article http://sports.peacefmonline.com/soccer/201107/59622.php
does mention the Sounders not being able to afford the price. I kind figure by now the Sounders have moved on from Tagoe.
Any article that talks about the Sounders "not affording" Tagoe
is basing it on a false concept that it would cost an MLS side almost 10 times what other teams are offering. Not to mention that Seattle could afford it, they just wouldn’t want to pay that much.
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I think there's truth to both sides of that story
I don’t think he was looking for $200k per week (something was surely lost in translation), but I also think that he was too much $$ for the Sounders. If there was no sticking point, a deal would have been done by now on Prince. I’m guessing they’re looking elsewhere at this point.
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 3, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Adrian is a master at talking while saying nothing
Seriously, I don’t think I’ve ever learned something I didn’t already know when reading his comments or listening to him speak. (Not criticizing him, just laughing at the “ownership speak”)
What would be absolutely hilarious would be a conversation between Adrian and Ozzie. Heads would asplode!
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 3, 2011 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

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