State of the MLS Run In: 8 Weeks To Go
As the regular season winds down I'm going to be posting a weekly summary of the some of the data and predictions we're generating, which should give you some context going into each week of games.
Playoff & Trophy Probabilities
This is each team's up to date odds of making the playoffs, winning the Supporter's Shield, and winning the MLS Cup based on simulating the remainder of the season 10000 times.
| Avg Pos | Avg Points | Playoff % | Change | Supporters Shield % | MLS Cup % | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Los Angeles | 1.30 | 64.01 | 100.0 | -- | 77.28 | 21.12 |
| Seattle | 2.37 | 59.25 | 100.0 | -- | 16.63 | 13.40 |
| FC Dallas | 3.28 | 56.90 | 100.0 | +0.3 | 3.74 | 11.21 |
| Real Salt Lake | 4.69 | 53.23 | 99.21 | +4.28 | 1.92 | 7.53 |
| Columbus | 5.65 | 51.83 | 98.8 | +0.18 | 0.24 | 12.37 |
| Colorado | 6.63 | 49.76 | 97.54 | -0.77 | 0.03 | 4.81 |
| Kansas City | 7.45 | 48.20 | 89.65 | -3.65 | 0.05 | 9.71 |
| Philadelphia | 7.58 | 47.97 | 86.89 | +5.32 | 0.10 | 7.75 |
| DC United | 9.32 | 45.45 | 66.33 | +6.07 | 0.01 | 5.77 |
| New York | 9.84 | 44.09 | 60.35 | +7.16 | 0.0 | 3.38 |
| Houston | 10.43 | 43.51 | 49.08 | -5.77 | 0.0 | 1.71 |
| Portland | 11.82 | 41.60 | 23.91 | +12.36 | 0.0 | 0.27 |
| Chivas USA | 12.02 | 40.50 | 21.06 | -30.30 | 0.0 | 0.69 |
| Chicago | 13.54 | 37.77 | 6.19 | +4.59 | 0.0 | 0.28 |
| San Jose | 15.11 | 34.67 | 0.90 | +0.27 | 0.0 | 0.01 |
| New England | 16.12 | 32.18 | 0.07 | +0.04 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Toronto FC | 16.83 | 30.86 | 0.0 | -- | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Vancouver | 17.03 | 29.75 | 0.0 | -- | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Avg Pts for Playoffs | 43.76 | |||||
Teams Eliminated
Teams that have been eliminated by three decreasingly stringent standards. Read here for more details.
- Mathematical Elimination (Unable to make the playoffs in any scenario)
None - Effective Elimination (Unable to make 40 points even with perfect play)
None - Projected Elimination (less than 1% chance of making the playoffs in simulation)
San Jose, New England, Toronto FC, Vancouver
Remaining Strength of Schedule
Using the same simulation, we can also determine remaining schedule strength by seeing how a league average team would do with each team's remaining schedule. Teams at the top have schedules against which an average team got the most PPG, meaning we think they have the easiest remaining schedule.
| Avg Team Points | Matches | Pts / Match | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Seattle | 10.297 | 7 | 1.471 |
| New York | 11.725 | 8 | 1.466 |
| FC Dallas | 10.244 | 7 | 1.463 |
| Kansas City | 11.458 | 8 | 1.432 |
| Colorado | 8.38 | 6 | 1.397 |
| Columbus | 11.163 | 8 | 1.395 |
| DC United | 13.79 | 10 | 1.379 |
| Philadelphia | 13.754 | 10 | 1.375 |
| Portland | 10.963 | 8 | 1.37 |
| Chicago | 10.918 | 8 | 1.365 |
| Toronto FC | 8.181 | 6 | 1.363 |
| New England | 10.908 | 8 | 1.363 |
| Chivas USA | 9.457 | 7 | 1.351 |
| Vancouver | 10.785 | 8 | 1.348 |
| Los Angeles | 10.712 | 8 | 1.339 |
| Real Salt Lake | 13.04 | 10 | 1.304 |
| San Jose | 10.243 | 8 | 1.28 |
| Houston | 8.815 | 7 | 1.259 |
Seattle's First Round Opponent
This is the likelihood of each team being the first playoff opponent for Seattle (either in the preliminary round or — more likely — in the Conference Semifinals).
| Matchup % | |
|---|---|
| FC Dallas | 50.1% |
| Real Salt Lake | 18.9% |
| Colorado | 11.0% |
| Los Angeles | 4.0% |
| DC United | 2.7% |
| Houston | 2.7% |
| New York | 2.5% |
| Portland | 1.9% |
| Philadelphia | 1.9% |
| Chivas USA | 1.8% |
| Kansas City | 1.7% |
Cascadia Cup Odds
This is the % chance for each of the Cascadia teams of winning the rivalry cup.
| Odds | |
|---|---|
| Seattle | 65.22 |
| Portland | 19.08 |
| Vancouver | 15.70 |
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I have little to add
But this is awesome. Thanks!
I try to keep this pretty consistent
so I’ll put summary/comments here. Though maybe I’ll move them to the main article next time. Not sure.
Chivas’ playoff hopes got smashed after two consecutive 1-0 losses. Portland’s the biggest beneficiary despite not playing. They also benefit from Houston losing. Seattle’s still hovering on the edges of the Supporters Shield race after destroying Columbus.
FCD is now over a 50% chance of being the first round opponent in the playoffs. The Brek Shea hate must flow.
The Next Cascadia Cup match is between the Sounders and Whitecaps in Vancouver at the end of the month. If Seattle wins, the Cup is ours. The final match is a week later when Portland also travels to Vancouver.
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Columbus + % Chance
How does Columbus get a higher % Chance after losing with a walloping last week? I understand that both SKC lost also….but isn’t a loss a bad thing (especially one where you had a -4 GD)?
My logic (I don't know sidereals calculations) tells me
If the 2nd place team in the conference loses along with you (and you’re leading), you don’t lose any points to them and there are less games to play. That would increase your odds of making the playoffs strictly by forcing them to score the same amount of points in less games. GD might mitigate that % gain, but it would be a gain none the less.
The only way Columbus doesn't make the playoffs
is if the entire rest of the competitive East rises up and nearly wins out. Anytime any other east team doesn’t do that, they get a bump regardless of what they do. The fact that most of the Eastern Conference lost last week makes up for their own loss.
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Also, what may factor,
Columbus lost on the road, SKC at home.
That Matchup % is pretty depressing.
Chances of us not playing Dallas, RSL, or LA is 27%.
I love MLS, but hate their playoff seeding.
Interesting that...
We smash the Crew but they have basicaly the same chance of wining the cup as us still. Im sure this has to do with them going through the week east to reach the finals. So Lame.
Great read
I gotta say, I would love for RBNY to not make the playoffs though. Pretty sure there are many people who would like to see them flop as well.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Aug 30, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
% change
Thanks sidereal. I enjoy these posts. Any chance you could include % change for Supporters Shield % and MLS Cup %
Playoff percent shows 100% for top 3
but that must be rounded up from 99.9999999? Much like Vancouver is still not mathematically eliminated, we’re not mathematically guaranteed are we?
Sort of
Those weren’t rounded, so it meant that in 10000 simulations, none of those 3 failed to make the playoffs even once. If I ran it a million times they might miss a few times. We haven’t technically clinched, but we’re more likely to make the playoffs than Vancouver is to miss them.
So yeah, we’re in the playoffs.
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