Seattle Sounders Advance To Third Straight Open Cup Final After 1-Nil Win Over FC Dallas
While the first half at times seemed like a passing clinic by the Seattle Sounders they only managed a single goal. That one Fredy Montero shot won the US Open Cup Semifinal match over FC Dallas, but it certainly will not be what people will remember from the match. Unfortunately the second half of chipping, sometimes violent, play by both teams will over shadow what was a truly amazing goal sequence. At first he attempted to put away an amazing bicycle kick from within a crowd. A few moments later he faked right, shimmied left and stabbed the ball in with his left foot. When asked about that series of events he was quite humble.
"I keep working. Luckily the second one from the distant position got in and gave us a spot in the final."
But the second half saw Dallas dominate the action a bit as they shifted their formation. One of the changes took Brek Shea away from his kryptonite named Zach Scott. Another was to put Marvin Chavez into a forward role where he managed to be much more creative and took advantage of his speed against Scott wide.
But as the second half went on it went from physical to violent. There may have only been three Cautions during play in the second 45, but it was chippy. Calls were missed. Leo Gonzalez was lucky to not get a second Yellow. Mauro Rosales was getting run over, tackles come in from behind and an attempt by Mike Fucito to kill time deep in the corner somehow wound up as a turnover as he lay bleeding on the pitch after being physically thrown to the turf.
Throughout the violence being laid upon Seattle's speed players their defensive line was struggling. Kasey Keller brought up that they made some fundamental errors and the result was a little fortunate.
It's more than that, it's not just our defense letting down. We let them come at us. We let them. We didn't step up and put pressure on them when we should have. We relaxed and we dropped back into flat positions and we just didn't compete how we could have. And it's a shame because we had played so well for about 70 minutes and then the last 20 minutes we just stopped playing. We had some interesting calls, but in the end the result is what's important. Maybe a year and a half ago, maybe two years ago, we might have let this game slip. But right now we're in good form, we're getting those breaks when we need them - they crushed one off the post -- and you need that to get into the finals. We had that going for us today.
Seattle did just manage to get the result. And because of that result CenturyLink Field will host another US Open Cup Final. This one promises to be historic as either the Seattle Sounders will win their third straight or the Chicago Fire will earn their fifth. It doesn't have to be pretty to make a Cup Final. But to win one you have to make it that far.
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have read vague rumblings about future upgrades at Starfire
given the freedom to do it, would you expand the field to a more normal size or keep it as a funky little nuance of home field advantage?
It's possible...
I read somewhere that it’s 3 yards more narrow and 14 yards shorter. And the crowd is right on top of the field.
I LOVE going to games at Starfire as it is though. If it made the team better and didn’t reduce the advantage the Sounders had of playing at the Starfire, the I would be all over expanding the field and seating.
As it is though, I saw a lot of balls played wrong by Dallas tonight that had everything to do with a small and home friendly field. I’ll take that advantage every day.
by SoundersForever on Aug 31, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
14 yards?
Where did you get that number? The field is only 3-4 yards narrower and 3-4 yards shorter.
Crap
Then it goes on to say its 100 yards long instead of 114.
Where did you and I read that at?
I want to bookmark it.
by SoundersForever on Aug 31, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m an FCD fan, so take this with a grain of salt:
- Do Starfire games tend to be more physical? I’d figure that when you take 400 square feet (14 yds by 4 yd) out of a pitch, it’s only normal that there would be more collisions. When a ref loses control of a game like last night, that just leads to more chippiness.
- If they renovate anything, I hope they build up one of the stands vertically, so the main camera has the wide vantage-point it needs to for a telecast. The production crew did a very impressive job of overcoming that with well produced cuts between multiple cameras, though.
I've been to 10 Sounders games at Starfire
and I would say the physicality of those games usually tends to be more in line with what I see at a normal Sounders game. I think the problem last night was with the referee team. The linesmen were failing to flag just as many fouls as the referee, and before too long the game was well out of hand. From what I’ve observed, and I may be totally incorrect, the refs used for US Open Cup matches and reserve league matches don’t come from the MLS pool of refs. If true, this means the refs are even worse than what we normally get for MLS games.
by MicahRowe18 on Aug 31, 2011 5:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Definitely not true on the refs
We’ve had Grajeda for a couple of MLS games this season (can’t remember which ones) and the LA game was reffed by Stott, who did the Chivas game a couple weeks ago. These refs come from the same US Soccer pool from which they choose refs for MLS games, I’m pretty sure.
You're confusing Kevin Stott and Paul Scott
But you’re correct about Hilario. :)
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Nope, same guy
From Soundersfc recaps:
LA in the USOC: Our referee tonight is Kevin Stott. He is assisted by Corey Rockwell and Mike Kampmeinert. The fourth official is Levi Rippy.
From the Chivas game: The referee today is Kevin Stott. He is assisted by Adame Wienckowski and Jason Cullum. The 4th official is Matthew Foerster.
Sorry, thought you were talking about last night -
One of the refs was announced as a “Paul Scott”
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't notice that
If he had any hand in many of the reffing decisions last night, hopefully Scott doesn’t ref many more MLS games, either.
Or any
I guess I have no clue if he’s ever done an MLS game.
FWIW, I've never heard his name before
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Starfire
I’ve heard (or read) that they’re going to try to add seating on the south side of the field where the uncovered bleachers are. However, because the river runs directly behind that area, it won’t be a big grandstand like on the north side.
In my opinion, any money they put toward renovating that field should be used to upgrade the lighting. I couldn’t believe how dark that field was after the sun went down.
I would also like them to upgrade the pedestrian walkway out of the facility,
It’s almost scary how many people get bottlenecked in there after games.
by Aaron Campeau on Aug 31, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Another good reason to listen to Nos Audietis...
This week we had an interview with Adrian Hanauer who discussed this very thing. Basically, he said it’s somethign that has been discussed but the financial don’t make a lot of sense right now. They don’t want to expand the stadium just so they can host more people for 3-5 Open Cup games a year. They need other teams to be using the field when they aren’t.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 31, 2011 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like Tukwila should start a PDL/USL/NASL team.
Im sure they could get some fans out to watch. I would love to see more soccer in the area. We already have a good ammount, but more is always better.
Plus they just dumped millions into upgrading it a couple of years ago
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
wow
from the MLSsoccer.com web site:
Schmid credited his team for keeping calm despite the fevered atmosphere, which saw FCD captain Daniel Hernandez red-carded after the match for abusive language.
"Generally, when teams were physical against us in the past, in our first two years, we had trouble with that," Schmid said. "We’re doing a much better job of dealing with teams when they play a more aggressive style and still being able to maintain our composure and do what we need to do."
also, this link is from the game post comments
it’s a picture of a bleeding Mike Fucito
Here's an even worse one
Again, possibly NSFW/NSFyour stomach
by wyte_lightning on Aug 30, 2011 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Who threw the elbow?
It was an obviously violent elbow from my seats around the half line, but didn’t see who threw it. Anyone know for sure who threw it?
by MicahRowe18 on Aug 30, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I've read several comments on mlssoccer.com saying that it was George John
Can’t confirm though, obviously.
by wyte_lightning on Aug 31, 2011 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I've heard John as well
But I’ve also heard Benitez and Hernandez. Every time someone says it was John, I can’t help but thinking an elbow from him would clear Fucito’s head by a few inches…
by MicahRowe18 on Aug 31, 2011 1:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It was Hernandez.
I’m 99% sure – I was standing on the railing between that corner and the goal. I thought Fucito was properly whistled for the foul on the play, but as the whistle was coming it looked like Hernandez elbowed him and kind of scraped his face.
Fuck, fat fingers...
Mayers said that he’ll be getting stitches.
by wyte_lightning on Aug 30, 2011 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions
he needed 9 stitches but should be fine
I’m guessing he will be taking some time off though
by Sandra_R on Aug 31, 2011 12:15 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm guessing he won't play for at least 10 days
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 31, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
He’ll probably have to wear one of those plastic face masks as well.
When Fucito is bearing down on a defender they won’t make out his face, just those eyes……then it is all over.
That's a pretty good guess!
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I know the guy that asked that question
Oh wait, that was me….
Someone transcribes quicker than I do.
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Are you implying that the ref didn’t deserve abusive language? The officials clearly lost control of the match by the time there were 15-20 minutes left.
I wasn't making any kind of implication there, but now that you brought it up
if you’re on the pitch, you should respect the referee. Even if he’s stupid and a moron and blind.
by Will Kier on Aug 31, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hernandez is a thug.
It was a shame to see what he did to Fucito. Obviously venting frustration at the time-wasting. Can’t believed he wasn’t booked at the time of the foul.
by Codemos on Aug 30, 2011 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Fredy Montero is so good
I wasn’t a soccer player growing up and even I know what that finish takes with your wrong foot.
World class.
by ClosetCoug on Aug 31, 2011 12:09 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
WE'RE GOING TO NEED A BIGGER TROPHY CASE
by Robert on Aug 31, 2011 1:02 AM PDT reply actions 13 recs
dont count yet
Don’t count them yet. If Chicago’s new and improved squad squeeze one by they will be up 5 USOC trophies to our 2. Thats a lot of trophies to make up.
Chicago improved
Chicago has improved in recent weeks. And they will have the added incentive of being able to focus on the game to the exclusion of other things. Should make for an interesting contest. But don’t make the mistake in assuming that the Sounders won’t be very focused. The franchise wants to 3peat and winning the USOC insures Seattle a 3rd straight year at the CCCL tournament.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 31, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I love my wife but...
I really love this team!! C’mon boys! Last year’s USOC Championship game was the greatest feeling Ive had at a sport evening, I know it’s all our’s again on October 4th.
Go banana!
We could have easily been up 3 - nil at half.
Ugly second half, doesn’t matter now though. Can’t wait to be there in person for the second Cup raising at home in two years!
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Aug 31, 2011 1:40 AM PDT reply actions
I know we always blame the refs, but...
SERIOUSLY?!?! There were so many moments in this game when I literally couldn’t believe my eyes, the things that went unchecked. I’m surprised we finished without more Fucito-esque injuries, because that was an UGLY game and there were so many times when guys were being fouled RIGHT in front of the refs. Again, I know we complain about this a lot, but it’s one thing when you’re worried about losing, it’s another when you’re seriously worried about our guys getting hurt. Not cool, refs!
I hope Fucito heals up quick, and Brad and Mauro are both over their aches and pains soon, too.
Good game, Seattle.
As an FCD fan, I have to say how impressed I am with your organization and fans. The crowd was vocal and impressive (“Blackburn Reject” was classic), and the production values of the webcast were amazing. I’ve never seen a game produced so smoothly using constant cuts to multiple cameras. Even with all his justifiable biases, Arlo White may be the best play-by-play man in the States.
That said, your vocal crowd also did a little too good of a job intimidating the refs. I don’t know how Leo Gonzalez escaped a second booking (even Arlo White said so). George John getting shoved down in the box was pretty suspect, too. From the feed, all I saw in the corner with Fucito, was that he pulled down George John while time-wasting. Sucks if GJ meant to elbow him in the face, but if Fucito kept holding on, the contact could have been incidental while George tried to get free. Either way it sucked, and the ref should have gotten the game under control far before that.
by fennsk1 on Aug 31, 2011 4:17 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally agree on Gonzo getting lucky not to be booked
Either one of those two hard fouls towards the end could have been a yellow based on how the game had been called thus far.
There were several missed calls on each side that made for a much more dangerous game as the game wore on (e.g. Mauro getting intentionally run over, George John being shoved in the box, Fernandez being taken out in the box earlier in the game, etc.). Really unfortunate, because it changed the game from some incredible shows of skill early to a lot of push-and-shove towards the end.
Well played by your boys. See you in the playoffs!
Yup
Another FCD fan here.
Grats on the win. Good luck in CCL and looking forward to playoffs.
No excuses, Seattle outplayed FCD tonight.
by Timothy Winning Voyles on Aug 31, 2011 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Looking forward to the playoffs, but not facing FCD again.
They scare me more than LA. With a more logical playoff structure, they wouldn’t meet until later but what can you do?
Just shows the depth of both teams that we can lose one of our vital players and still get results.
FCD is a damn dangerous team
They’ll be even more dangerous once Ferreria gets back on the field. It’s a crying shame two of the best teams in MLS have to face each other for their first playoff game of the season when half the league gets into the playoffs.
by Dizzo on Aug 31, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The "Blackburn Reject" chant made me a little uncomfortable
Having a local guy in the EPL would have been pretty neat and in the past John has come over and socialized with the ECS so I’m not sure why we targeted him. I much rather us pointing out to Zach Scott of all people has made Shea his bitch.
Man, it was such a harmless chant
I’m amazed at how much hand-wringing is going on over this
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 31, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was sitting next to John's family
I don’t think it was harmful, but it was awkward! :)
In other news George has either a brother or cousin who looks just like him. He was there with the John family wearing John’s jersey and at first I thought it was George himself!
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
yeah, saw them after game...
didn’t realize that was family, but the resemblance was remarkable. After the game, some Sounders fans were chanting the “deep in the heart of texas” song at them. They didnt’ seem pleased…
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 31, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Have to admit
I am all for the shouting at George (to be fair it was funny), but felt a bit bad for his family as they were taking a lot of heat from the fans around us too.
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
You've sat near me at matches so you know that I am not exactly what you would call shy towards the opposing side.
Just don’t see why the ECS chose to go after a friend of the ECS. Maybe after he gave the elbow but we were on his case the moment he stepped on the pitch.
Because he plays for the other team?
Once they step on the field wearing the wrong colors it’s open season.
by Aaron Campeau on Aug 31, 2011 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'd say most of us hate on Donovan and other US players who playin MLS
but when they put on US colors, we love them. I don’t think this is that different. John is clearly a very good player and I think many around here are proud that he came out of this area, but once you put on opposing colors, well, you’re on the opposing team.
by Nevtelen on Aug 31, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You think Shea gets that same courtesy extended with regards to the Nats? ;-)
(I agree with your point and I do the same)
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
If the "Blackburn Reject" chant really gets to John...
…he’s never, ever going to make it in the EPL.
by Dizzo on Aug 31, 2011 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Classy and clean
I enjoyed “Blackburn Reject” because it was simple and relevant. It’s not like we insulted his family or talked about non-soccer incidents or cursed endlessly. When John puts on the red, white, and blue, I’ll be cheering just as loud as ECS at Atlantic Station.
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by ColinMacLeod on Aug 31, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
You mean the blue & white? ;)
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Your handle rules
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
by B-Lot tailgater on Aug 31, 2011 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Stop winning.
Leave some trophies for the rest of us, please.
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by J.Schnauzer on Aug 31, 2011 7:15 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Credit where credit is due.
Zach Scott’s first half performance against Shea (and then Chavez) was one for the ages. There was literally nothing Shea could do without Zach Scott right there in his hip pocket, or more accurately, leaping above him and winning the ball. Every 30 seconds in that first half I said, “Holy shit, Zach Scott,” because of something awesome he did.
I don’t know how a 31 year old journeyman soccer player all the sudden turns in a string of amazing performances like he has of late but he deserves some credit for it.
by ryanhealy on Aug 31, 2011 7:17 AM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Yeah
There was a couple times during the game I was like," Oh Brek Shea is streaking down the middle." Then right as he was getting into position for a pass on his run Zach Scott would jump in and do something awesome. Absolutely smothered.
Most Improved
Sigi recently tabbed Zach Scott as the most improved player in his time with the team. The biggest change in Scott’s performance is an understanding of his strengths and weaknesses and how to play with the skills he has. Zach Scott will never be accused of having high performance after burners. He has to survive on his stature and positioning. He is a role player and when the team needs that role, Sigi can now call on him. Along the way, Scott has become Brek Shea’s personal nightmare. Every time Shea closes his eyes, he is beginning to see visions of Scott in his sleep.
Scott has had the responsibility of neutralizing Shea and he has done it well. Essentially Sigi used Scott to take Shea out of the contest and forced the other 10 players on FCD to beat Seattle without him. FCD hasn’t been able to do it yet. They’ve come agonizingly close and as a Sounder fan, there have been moments during these games where my heart has been in the back of my throat. It’s been a wild ride and the last 6 games have been spectacular. Honestly how many of us would have looked at this stretch of 6 games and predicted that the Sounders would finish them 5-0-1 with the tie being Chivas? All hail the men in Rave Green, Shale and Electricity yellow.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 31, 2011 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
On a related note...
I am personally grateful that Sigi has never donned an Electricity Yellow shirt during a game.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 31, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
It is actually more popular than shale
and by a lot
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Is that because the Shale has bra straps built in?
by MurrayD on Aug 31, 2011 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Electricity yellow may be more popular
But shale has more support.
by Derek R on Aug 31, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Electricity Yellow
Should be worn only for USOC, CCL, and @Portland.
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by ColinMacLeod on Aug 31, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
And vs Barcelona
Who doesn’t want to see highlighter pink vs highlighter yellow. (Don’t know if Barca still uses those bright pink jersey’s or not)
I absolutely LOVE the electricity
It’s nearly as much an international brand of ours as rave green is a league brand. It also makes international matches from crappy feeds easier to watch, ha
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
For the record
I don’t mind the Electricity yellow kit. It is easy to see on the Fox broadcasts. I’m just glad Sigi doesn’t wear a shirt that color.
And all of the current Sounders kits have the silly bra strap thingys. May make sense for a player on the field but looks silly on fans.
by Abbott Smith on Aug 31, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
The electricity doesn't have the straps, actually
Because it’s still the ‘09/’10 version of the jersey.
I’m with you on the straps though – that’s the reason I won’t buy one of the new jerseys. I cannot begin to tell you how much I loathe the new “bra strap” jerseys. I’m trying to find older ones to buy and get names printed on…
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought we didn't get electricity until last year
And that all jerseys were a 2 year deal in the MLS
That's why we're using electricity again this year
Next year they will roll out a new alternate kit, and then there will be new home and away kits in 2013. It makes sense for the Sounders to alternate the release of jerseys, because it gets some fans to buy a new jersey every year.
by MicahRowe18 on Aug 31, 2011 4:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I brought a hockey player to his first Sounders match last night
His favorite part was when Zach Scott threw the Dallas attacker into the boards! Hah, not surprising I guess…
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
No doubt!
My friend said “I had no idea soccer was this rough! LOVE it”
tongue-in-cheek I replied “oh yeah, they’re ALWAYS like this”
:knucklebite:
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
And Ferreira should be back by then too
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by ABTsportsline on Aug 31, 2011 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Chicago Fire next
Fire fan here. Impressed with Seattle for going for it every year for this trophy. Chicago is your true rival for this trophy year in and year out, as we are the only other club that really care of this trophy (as of now, it is getting more popular). You have the better squad this year, but be careful. If we sneak out of Quest with this one, Chicago will be up 5 USOC trophies to your 2.
I'm anticipating a hard fought match
Hopefully only in the tactical sense, and not so much in the blood and guts way it was against Dallas.

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