Seattle Sounders v Real Salt Lake - Gamethread
by Dave Clark on Sep 10, 2011 11:30 AM PDT
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PrintFor Real Salt Lake the trip to Seattle will always remind them of their greatest win in history. Luckily for Seattle Sounders fans, it had nothing to do with the team in Rave Green. Besides that neutral pitch win, RSL has struggled with things Seattle with the Sounders earning 8 points in 5 previous meetings. Complicating the Utah Royals desire to break into the Western Conference Promised Land rather than a Wild Card slot is their road heavy end of season schedule including this match. By design the men of Salt Lake prevent the opposing team from taking many shots, and play a patient game with a compact diamond 4-4-2. Fabian Espindola and Alvaro Saborio have some speed and are threats, but they are forwards defined more by their support than by themselves. Each have 7 goals on the season. It will be the central midfielders that define the game tomorrow, with Luis Gil likely as the #10 and Kyle Beckerman as the holding mid.
Seattle should have control of the width. Alvaro Fernandez and Mauro Rosales tend to play wider than their opposing mids, as well as higher. They are also both more technical players on the ball, and Rosales is faster than Salt Lake's left side. With speedy Mike Fucito and ball-magician Fredy Montero up top Seattle should be able to threaten Nick Rimando and the Salt Lake goal. Seattle scores two goals a game, and with 36,000 in the stands in amazing weather this could be another day of free haircuts. A win would push the Sounders past their previous MLS high, with many games to spare no matter how you count them.
The game is on KING5 and 97.3FM with Arlo White on the call at 1PM
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Tactical Keys
- Challenge Rimando High & At Angles
- Use Every Dimension To Pass
- Beware the Counter
- Communicate Defensively
Player Matchups
- Kyle Beckerman v Brad Evans or Erik Friberg
- Mike Fucito v Jamison Olave
- Alvaro Fernandez v Robbie Russll
Statistics
| Traditional | Goals | Assists | Save % | GAA |
| RSL | Espindola, Saborio (7) | Beckerman (8) | Rimando (72%) | Rimando (0.88) |
| Sounders | Montero, Fernandez (6) | Rosales (9) | Keller (74%) | Keller (1.07) |
| Additional | PP90 | Set-Play | Run | Team Shot +/- 90 | Team ShOG +/- 90 |
| RSL | Saborio (1.10) | GD +7 | +5 | 3.84 | 1.44 |
| Sounders | Rosales (1.03) | GD +7 | +5 | 0.56 | 0.52 |
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Where I'm Watching: Sec 214
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After the layoff, I think the Sounders come out a little rusty
and don’t look good in the first 20 mins or so. I hope we don’t give up a goal during that time. After that, I’d bet the team will start to look better and will give RSL a good match. I think this ends either 0-0 or 1-0 in someone’s favor (hopefully ours).
Fun stat from the RSL Twitter feed
They’ve never played a day game on turf. They’re 2-11-7 all time on turf with the only wins coming over New England.
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Via @joshuamayers:
Sounders FC lineup: GK Keller, D Riley, D Parke, D Hurtado, D Wahl, M Alonso, M Friberg, M Fernandez, M Rosales, F Montero, F Fucito
by wyte_lightning on Sep 10, 2011 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
Via @joshuamayers:
Sounders FC reserves: GK Josh Ford, D Zach Scott, D Patrick Ianni, M Lamar Neagle, F Nate Jaqua, F/M Pat Noonan, M Servando Carrasco
by wyte_lightning on Sep 10, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
Via @joshuamayers:
RSL lineup: GK Rimando, D Russell, D Olave, D Borchers, D Beltran, M Beckerman, M Johnson, M Williams, M Gill, F Espindola, F Saborio
by wyte_lightning on Sep 10, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions
Via @joshuamayers:
Real Salt Lake reserves: GK Tim Melia, M Jean Alexandre, F/M Arturo Alvarez, F Paulo Jr., M Ned Grabavoy, D Chris Schuler, M Collen Warner
by wyte_lightning on Sep 10, 2011 12:20 PM PDT reply actions
Levesque not in the 18...
Any truth to the rumor that he was placed on the injured list because of his beard?
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by Greg Pirkl Lives on Sep 10, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
Ah no spoilers!
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Here's hoping they jump back in
both feet forward. Time for the stretch run to begin!
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
hey guys
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beautiful day out here
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 10, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
man that was some pretty stuff from sounders
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You don't know how much you miss the Sounders
until you’re in a hotel room in Dubai where it’s after midnight….and you’re watching online.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
by bmathews206 on Sep 10, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
You might find KC v Houston
If you’ve got al Jazeera Sport 8
Damn
Here in northern Iraq there’s live MLS is on Al Jazeera Sport, but it’s KC v Houston.
Uh...
Why? KC I can see, but Houston?
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
email me and i'll get you a mdl password
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 10, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
The stream I'm watching is pretty crappy....
any suggestions?
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My Internet cannot handle the streams tonight.
I can sometimes watch MDL through my VPN, but tonight the Interent can barely handle the live audio.
Keller missed the ball.
Own goal on Keller.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Well.. if there is such a thing...
The feed wasn’t on frame.. Keller scooped it and threw it in the net?
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
RSL seem pretty disinterested in keeping the ball.
They keep booting it to our defenders
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I've started to assume we will always miss.
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How is that not a penalty there?
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
that missed penalty is still eating at me
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Unfortunate that Brad Evans is injured
He seemed to handle the penalties with no problem early in the season
Good thing it doesnt seem be eating at Mauro.
That’s about as harsh as it can get. Oh wait, an own goal by the Gk. Memorable?
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
This feels like earlier this season.
Lots of chances, just not quite connecting at the end.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:34 PM PDT reply actions
Just can't catch a break...
Well, that’s not entirely right…
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Carrasco on for Friberg
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yeah, he didn't look right
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 10, 2011 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, the sounders are creating plenty of pressure
lets’ see if it means anything
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I think its because RSL aren't really trying to attack
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I have to be honest here...
I am not a Carrasco fan. He is generally reckless and doesn’t really do all that much good out there.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
H'es a pretty solid CDM
I feel good knowing Ozzie has a competent backup, especially given his age.
People keep saying this. I don't see it.
What exactly is he good at, other than hacking people?
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
And now Hurtado is sent off.
What?
That was deliberately to even sides.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:46 PM PDT reply actions
HORRIBLE officiating.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Somebody should actually hit that guy in the face now.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Yellow
maybe no malicious intent – his back was to him!
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Saborio apparently didn't learn his lesson for diving early in the season.
Maybe a suspension for the rest of the regular season?
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That'll be two subs before the half
to keep the D at 4
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Sep 10, 2011 1:48 PM PDT reply actions
I would never want to take off offense in favor of defense when down a goal. Especially since RSL already lost a man
by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 2:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Riley needs to calm down before he gets sent off too.
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I wonder if that was stlil a red card if Carrasco hadn't gone in on Johnson?
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Well, the bright side is..
I’ve always felt we have the advantage in 10v10 games. The Sounders are much better with all that space that opens up thanks to the missing players.
Now with more pessimism!
When the game is tied this is true
RSL have shown they have no interest in playing the game
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Between this and the second half of the Liverpool match this morning, I've gotten to see some truly horrific refereeing today.
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So lazy how he just puts the ball straight into the net!
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
FUCK YOU REF, AND FUCK YOU RSL
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by c_dowley on Sep 10, 2011 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE REFS DO TO US OR HOW BADLY THE GAME IS CALLED!
WE’RE STILL GOING TO WIN!
Now with more pessimism!
FanTASTIC buildup, and an even better finish by Montero
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Montero will get a red card
for doing something he hasn’t done in a while
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Sep 10, 2011 1:55 PM PDT reply actions
One team is playing world football.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Can the MLS step up and just ban that guy for a month for these repeated dives?
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Seriously
I feel they should increase the fine/suspension if it has a direct impact on the game (PK or ejection). Also being his second offense this season he should be in some serious trouble for this time. I hope the MLS doesn’t balk at the chance to set a precedent.
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From MLS website:
“Jhon Kennedy Hurtado (Seattle Sounders FC) is shown the red card for a bad foul.”
I guess that is what “a bad foul” looks like.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I have this honest belief that you could end that crap entirely by...
a) halftime review and reversal, and
b) doubling the consequence that was drawn from the dive, or adding a yellow for a normal foul drawn, after the fact. If you get a 3 game ban for a red, a 6 game ban for a dive to draw a red would work.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
It has to be be solved after the fact in my mind.
It would get stupid out there if they started overly enforcing anything that could be a dive. We’d get eaten alive by that if only because we have lots of small quick guys.
No kidding.
I wish the refs could review the replays of the cards they issue at half. Saborio needs to get sent off for his BS.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are we so sure that's a dive?
It’s suspicious, I’ll grant you, but if this were a courtroom I doubt I could claim it beyond a reasonable doubt.
I agree
I doubt there will be repercussions for Saborio. Its close enough that there might have been minimal contact.
The only way that's a straight red is if the ref thought that it was a malicious elbow
But there no way in hell it was.
by wyte_lightning on Sep 10, 2011 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea pretty much. It doesn't even vaguely look malicious.
I mean, Hurtado is already past him, with the ball, how could he have even intentionally gone for the face with an elbow short of just a wild swing back. Which itself would have made no sense. Ughhh.
Now with more pessimism!
Halftime straw poll:
— How many more total yellow cards?
— Will there still be 10 men per side at the end of the match?
4 more yellows
Two are given to the same person, resulting in a red.
I'd say 2 more yellows
and 10 per side at the end of the match is likely. I think the ref will be very shy about giving any more reds, refs don’t like giving multiple reds to one team. It’s the same oddity as PKs.
Now with more pessimism!
The Own Goal
Did Espindola have contact with Keller? Seems almost like Keller ran into him and dropped the ball.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
Intereting
Salt Lake fans seems to think that Fucito is diving. I guess they are completely ignoring the pushes in the back their defenders are applying.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions
If someone six inches taller and 40 pounds heavier than you runs into you repeatedly, you might get knocked over, too.
@ritual605
by Greg Pirkl Lives on Sep 10, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
They also think Arlo is a poor commentator.
Yeah, I think I’ll ignore them now.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
"ZOMG he's such a homer"
Something like that?
by wyte_lightning on Sep 10, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone starting tehir criticism with ZOMG loses all credibillity instantly
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This:
“Just because a dude has an English accent, doesn’t mean he’s a good commentator. This dude sucks.”
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Fucito took down Olave?
Really? Look at the size of them ref!
Honestly, wtf?
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions
Shocked espindola didn't fall down in the box there. Somebody breathed near him.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Did the ref do ayahuasca before the game?
Because that’s what it looksl ike to me.
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What the hell?
Al Jazeera sport comes back from half time of KC v Houston, and is now replaying KC v LA instead!
The shit was that?
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by c_dowley on Sep 10, 2011 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously? The ref called offside like five touches later?
Jesus. What an incompetent.
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Nice tackle by beckerman.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Fernandez has had a quiet day so far
A lot of the attack has gone through Rosales today.
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very impressive goal from saborio
what are you gonna do?
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Draws a red out of nothing, scores a goal
man of the match?
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Sep 10, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
OK, THAT I would say was a bit of a dive from Fucito.
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If JKH was still in the game he would have cleared it.
What a sly set up by Saborio. Get the one man that can stop you ejected from the game.
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by Brian23 on Sep 10, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Flaco never touched that!
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Ahem
“Shhh the ref doesn’t know shit…”
Fixed.
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by c_dowley on Sep 10, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Reply fail.
Oh well.
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better than the ref would've done
"..."
by Thaddeus Ballpheasant on Sep 10, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ref woulda posted it in a thread about the US Open.
Now with more pessimism!
by Fear on Sep 10, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is perhaps the most frustrated I've felt during a game this season.
by quacker27 on Sep 10, 2011 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Almost. We've had some real annoyances at teh beginning of the year.
Neagle for Fernandez. i like this move.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Nice job by Riley defensively there.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Surprised Saborio didn't fall on the way to the bench.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
by mistuhp on Sep 10, 2011 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
How did that not go in?!
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. . .
I have been swearing very loudly at my computer for the last 30 mins and I just realized my window is wide open.
I love the time wasting.
Not even trying to move.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Don't forget that we've been more dangerous than their offense.
Of great. Noonan. That’s showing your cards Sigi.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Then there's that first goal they scored that really shouldn't have been.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
the odd refing decisions continue
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Is this game karmic payback for us lucking out against Monterrey?
If so, then fuck you Karma.
Now with more pessimism!
Judging by this game, that's exactly how Karma works.
Because I’m pretty sure the Sounders havn’t murdered a plane full of kittens or anything to deserve this.
Now with more pessimism!
Again.
That’s not how Karma works. That may be something else, but Karma doesn’t affect you till the next life.
Next life, next game same thing
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I hate that both are simultaneous.
My internet here is crap, and I can only watch one game at a time. Grrrr
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Sounders should learn to waste time as well as RSL does.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:49 PM PDT reply actions
Need the lead first.
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I'm speaking of prior games we've played.
We don’t know how to shut it down.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Can someone remind me why Pat Noonan is on the team again?
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by Brian23 on Sep 10, 2011 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Noonan sub has really paid dividends...
in bizarro world.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
The neagle shot was only deflected to the point where it changed the path by about 60 degrees.
Can’t expect the ref to catch that…
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
"For serious foul play... apparently."
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
And after this game, after this kind of officiating,
I really don’t blame him.
Now with more pessimism!
by Fear on Sep 10, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
It's a good thing I'm not a player.
I would punch the ref.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
The only call that was uncharacteristically one sided was the red card.
On the whole he was horrible to both teams. It felt more against us because RSL didn’t attack the entire game.
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I dunno the last half of the game RSL was shoving all our players in the back with no call
and then ozzie does the same to them and he call it.
So did we.
Giving them a free goal and missing a penalty didn’t help.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Sep 10, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't control the ref.
Can control missed opportunities.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Sep 10, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Very true.
Real shame that Wahl’s didn’t go in, and that Mauro flubbed the PK.
On the whole, maybe we can take solace in that we still looked the better team during the game.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I would like to win the Supporters Shield I don't think LA is going to give it up.
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If we lose it by three, THEN I will be sad about this game.
The way it looks, though, we should just take our #2 and be happy we get to play FC Dallas again.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Sep 10, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Not at this point.
Going into this game we had the best chance to take it from them. Now I’d have to say Dallas has a better shot than we do.
by magistermilitum on Sep 10, 2011 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't control the ref no
But the league can certainly be stricter after the fact for simulation. Watching that on replay it’s clear that the only contact was hand to shoulder. As it stands now, the majority of the time it is worth it for players to simulate because there isn’t enough of a penalty if it fails. Too few refs call it.
That said, we defeated ourselves this game, the ref only made it easier to do.
10 on 10 with their keep staring into the sun...
…how were Ozzie and Montero not shelling him the whole second half?
Just got home from the match...
…and I was sitting up in 340 with a perfect view of the Hurtado phantom red card incident. There was absolutely no contact with Saborio’s face/head. It was a very well sold flop. Outrageous and disappointing. My only consolation, aside from the fact that it’s absolutely gorgeous out, and that makes it hard to feel too bad about anything for very long, is that I’m hoping this loss will help the team refocus on closing out the rest of the season strong with momentum rebuilding right on into the playoffs. Up the Sounders!!!
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