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Seattle Sounders Vs. Real Salt Lake: Amazing Ride Comes To Abrupt Halt

Fredy Montero's team-leading seventh goal of the seaosn was one of the few Seattle Sounders' highlights in their 2-1 loss to Real Salt Lake on Saturday.

As good as the Seattle Sounders have been playing lately, a result like Saturday's 2-1 loss to Real Salt Lake really seemed to come as quite a shock to the system. I'm sitting here in the pressbox, overlooking an empty stadium, and am actually having a hard time processing what exactly what happened here.

The Sounders did not play particularly bad. Much will be said about the ... uneven ... nature of the officiating, but I'm not saying that's what caused this uncharacteristic loss, either. Rather, the Sounders simply came up short on some key plays and failed to capitalize on most of their opportunities.

The two moments that will end up sticking in our brains will be Kasey Keller's mind-boggling own goal and Mauro Rosales' equally odd missed penalty. The Sounders' two veteran leaders simply failed in moments they expect to come through literally every time.

Keller's gaffe was particularly strange. In post-game comments, he alluded to being caught between two minds about what to do with Fabian Espindola's cross. It's a play he'll properly make the next 99 times he sees it, but on this day it ended up costing his team at least a point.

Likewise, Rosales will probably make the vast majority of the penalties he takes from here on out. That one, though, does continue a disturbing trend. The Sounders have now missed 3 of 8 penalties this year, more misses than any other MLS team. While three different players have missed those penalties, something is clearly not working. At this point, it seems like the Sounders would be better off settling on one player to take their penalties and just live with the results. His miss on Saturday aside, Rosales seems as good a candidate as any to take them. 

Star-divide

Those two moments were made even more frustrating because of some rather odd officiating. In his 14th match as the man the middle, Mark Kadlecik had what can best be called a forgettable performance. The penalty he awarded the Sounders was questionable, at best, he clearly did not realize he had given RSL defender Tony Beltran a second yellow and the red he showed Jhon Kennedy Hurtado had "makeup" written all over it. There were only 22 fouls called, but he managed to issue six cards.

RSL coach Jason Kreis probably put it best when he said this: "I agree with Sigi Schmid, and I would go further and say I don’t think Seattle’s red card was warranted. I don’t think their player elbowed Alvaro Saborio on purpose. I just think the referee made some bad decisions and was trying to work his way back into the game. Overall it just wasn’t good enough."

To be fair, though, Kadlecik was not the reason the Sounders lost this game. You might even argue that the failures of Keller and Rosales could have been overcome. Aside from Fredy Montero's brilliantly taken goal at the death of the first half, the Sounders just lost the finishing touch that had been the hallmark of their recent run.

Alvaro Fernandez, Tyson Wahl and Lamar Neagle all had opportunities that we've grown accustomed to them finishing. Wahl's in particular was a shot from point blank range that only failed to find the back of the net because Nick Rimando's face happened to get in the way. It was just one of three times the Sounders managed to put one of their 20 shots on frame.

Really, that's the stat this game is about: 20 shots, three on frame and one goal. In a lot of ways, it was a lot like the tie against the Houston Dynamo earlier this year, except with an even more frustrating result. I honestly don't think there's much to be made over that, as recent form suggests this was more an aberration than a sign that whatever magic the Sounders had discovered was fleeting.

No matter, though, this was a frustrating result and there's no reason to sugar-coat the implications. The Sounders will almost certainly have to run the table if they are to catch the Galaxy, now trailing them by seven points with just six MLS matches left to play. Even then, they'd probably need a bit of help.

Locking up the No. 2 seed in the Western Conference is probably the Sounders' most attainable goal now. Winning the U.S. Open Cup and securing a spot in the CONCACAF Champions League quarterfinals may even take precedent over much of the remaining MLS schedule. That Hurtado will now miss the Sounders' next game while he serves his red-card suspension, only seems to further bolster the case for focusing on other competitions.

As annoying as this loss was, we're all probably better off moving on quickly. That the Sounders have an important game in Costa Rica on Wednesday only highlights that necessity. So get it out of your system, we've now got other things to worry about.

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Today was one of those days

I feel we really needed a clinical finisher.

by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 4:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually felt this would have been a good spot for Jaqua.

Easy for me to second guess, but even with his poor fitness Jaqua could’ve been a better sub at 73’.

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by Grady Clapp on Sep 10, 2011 4:57 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Haha I wasn't

And I agree. That’s the sub I would have wanted as well.

by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just kind of a nightmare of a game

Should have been a draw, possibly a win… but at some point our luck was going to fade and RSL’s bad luck was going to end too.

This felt like the FCD loss (but 10 times more frustrating)… just write it off as a bad day and move on. I just hope this doesn’t come back bite us with respect to playoff seeding.

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by Grady Clapp on Sep 10, 2011 4:50 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I haven't watched at home yet

But at the stadium, there seemed to be a lot of standing around waiting for passes which made it easy for RSL to disrupt the flow on offense and lead to many turnovers.

by Postureduck on Sep 10, 2011 4:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd have to watch the game again...

…not that I want to, but it felt like Alonso had to fade a bit in Hurtado’s absence and Carrasco just isn’t the midfielder that Friberg ot Evans is in terms of bring the ball up and distributing. RSL did a fine job of locking up the wings at times. Honestly, losing Friberg and Hurtado today was a bad mix.

by jayw913 on Sep 10, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

They looked gassed in the last 20-25 mins

And since RSL had hardly tried most of they game they still had plenty of energy to use when they needed.

by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do we have injury concerns again?

Evans out? And now Friberg. This is not a good deck walking into Costa Rica and then a tough match next Saturday without Hurtado.

Also, I’ve tried and tried and tried to give Noonan the benefit of the doubt, but I’m there now: there was absolutely no reason for him to enter this game. Jaqua isn’t always the answer, but I have to think he’s a better choice at this point at forward. Especially if down a goal.

by jayw913 on Sep 10, 2011 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Ozzie's 5th yellow?

Was that Ozzie’s 5th yellow at the end of the game? If so we are without him vs DC too.

Is it wrong to stand for 90 minutes in your living room during away games?

by v_twinsam on Sep 10, 2011 8:44 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

who is out for next saturday?

carrasco and hurtado for sure…
anyone else?

by Sandra_R on Sep 10, 2011 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

That's it

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by Dave Clark on Sep 10, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wasn't on the report as sitting at 4

so he must have received the good behavior bonus at some point

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by Dave Clark on Sep 10, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alonso already sat for yellow accumulation

against New England. Since then, he’s received yellows at Portland and tonight against Salt Lake. That should put him at just 2 yellows accumulated, no?

by MicahRowe18 on Sep 11, 2011 2:19 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

yes

which means the next one he sits

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by Dave Clark on Sep 11, 2011 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not too worried but,,,

This is nothing to extremely worry about. The ball did bounce against us. But the only two issues for us this exposed (and hats off to Kreis) is (1) we don’t have bodies to fight a physical fight (provided that’s what a ref allows) and (2) we don’t have height in the box for corners, etc. Makes me really wish we had gotten Sheridan or Lafferty as we need the threat. This is “one of those games” but the Sounders not adding a TF showed here. The Hanson Brothers would have helped greatly too.

by Brougham Hooligan on Sep 10, 2011 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Also props to Kreis

For his post-game comments about the red cards; he actually went further than Sigi did in stating that the red card to Hurtado wasn’t warranted.

I found this one of the harder games to watch this season, not because of the result per se – sometimes it just goes that way – but because it felt disjointed. I’m not even sure why, because at times we had good possession and spread the play well, but I rarely felt like we were being very effective with it, even with the innumerable balls going into the box.

FCD lost to the Revs, incidentally…

by Targaff on Sep 10, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rosales for sure

Taking a PK is a lot of pressure. We need someone to just get used to being the PK guy. Relying on 1 person with a predefined backup is the way to go.

by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I disagree

We can’t just assume someone is going to make a PK after completely missing one. when Montero missed his PK, it was at least on frame. I’m not trying to take anything away from Rosales, i’m just saying he missed everything. I would not want him taking the next PK. It is only fair to a guy like Montero or Fernandez or Alonso who also only missed once. In my opinion Rosales should go to the back of the PK taking line

  • sorry, i failed to hit reply the first time.

by brandinho on Sep 10, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rotating PK takers has gotten us no where

And what makes you feel better about Montero/Flaco/Alonso over Rosales? At least Rosales has our highest shot conversion rate for the team.

by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

My question is, why is he going to continue being the PK taker?

Im not saying he wont. and dont get me wrong, Rosales is an excellent player and I am amazed at the great job he has done this year. But my question to you is, what makes you think he will take our next PK? Seattle Sounder history suggests he will not take the next PK. When a Sounders player misses a PK in the past, the NEVER take the next PK. I would think if healthy, Evans takes it. And if not, I would say Neagle who made a PK in a reserve game and in a preseason game. And if not him, Fucito would be another solid choice. Just not rosales in my opinion.

by brandinho on Sep 10, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evans has health issues as of late

And the PK taker needs to be someone consistently on the field, which also rules out Neagle. No objections to Fucito, but we certainly need to settle one 1 player and stop this rotating.

by Derek R on Sep 10, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Games under way

1) Wow, NYRB is bad.
2) If NE beats FCD and we get away with one today…
3) Apparently, we killed Columbus.

by jayw913 on Sep 10, 2011 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I know USSF/MLS has generally bad officiating

but why are they distributing their most inexperienced officials to some of the most important games. A few weeks ago we got to witness a whistle/foul fest in a game featuring the #2 vs #3 teams in MLS and today we had a game where the referee had way too much impact in the game with the #2 team taking on the #3 team in the league. I know these guys need to get experience somewhere but how about a steady diet of teams like Vancouver and New England?

by mark_s on Sep 10, 2011 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Saborio should be suspended + fined for faking

WHAT A DISGRACE! Seeing as the red card happened right in front of my section (140) I saw absolutely no elbow then live, and the replay on MLS only confirmed that. How does the ref give a straight red for that?? Talk about poor officiating, I mean c’mon.. IF Saborio should be fined for that crap.

by Rodey on Sep 10, 2011 6:38 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This just seemed like a flaky game...

We didn’t play particularly well, had several gaffes, some bad officiating, and some questionable strategy, and at least one sheer fluke play (Wahl’s drive hitting their keeper in the face.).

But, in terms of a “for want of a nail…” factor, I’d say the injury to Friberg may have been the turning point of the game. First off, with Evans unavailable, the need to go with Carrasco meant a return to the “bucket” approach of last season, which I don’t think fits this team all that well. Also, if we hadn’t needed to burn a substitution early on, I think you would have seen Sigi bring on Ianni after Hurtado got sent off and gone to a 4-3-2 or 4-4-1. Not wanting to use up two subs by halftime (and those two on essentially defensive players) led to the decision to try to stick with a three-man backline, which left us vulnerable to the counter and probably cost us the decisive goal.

It’s a shame this game is probably going to cost us our chance at the SS, but the fact is, this was more of a fluke than anything else, as the chance of all those random factors playing out the way they did is something that probably wouldn’t happen again in a hundred matches or more. We can grouse about the outcome, but I wouldn’t put too much store in this afternoon as being an indication of the state of our team or a sign of what’s to come the rest of the season.

by regnaD kciN on Sep 10, 2011 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Everything went their way today,

I am not really concerned with this game. Out of 4 situations that decided game today, all went their way: Keller’s own goal, Rosales’ missed penalty, Saborio’s goal after Wahl blocked the first shoot and gave him ball back, and Rimando’s face save. If one or two of these moments go Sounders’ way, we have completely different game, and probably another win today. In last several games, we had some lucky brakes, so it evens at the end.

Red card was not deserved, but Saborio sold it well, and the ref bought it. Without video replay or suspensions for divers, these things will continue to happen. There is not a lot that refs can do it about it.

by seattle 13 on Sep 10, 2011 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure that's happened this season

to Saborio, against San Jose, for a disgusting dive that earned the Earthquake defender a red card and Salt Lake a penalty. Unfortunately, the MLS didn’t reverse the Ted card after the fact.

by MicahRowe18 on Sep 10, 2011 8:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Ted card"

Hilarious! Auto-correct can be really stupid sometimes

by MicahRowe18 on Sep 10, 2011 8:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

That doesn't make any sense

If you are going to fine/suspend Saborio for diving which caused the red card/penalty then surely you must reverse the red card? The only way it makes sense to leave it is if it deserved a red regardless of actually touching the player.

by Derek R on Sep 11, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

RSL seemded dominate the midfield.

Perhaps this was due in part to the loss of Friberg. I thought we were having a lot of trouble winning balls in the midfield and distributing effectively, and this includes, oddly and notably, Alonso the honeybadger. It seemed to me that RSL worked really hard to be generally disruptive and pain in a rear, physically and mentally, and it worked out against us in the end. Yes, we didn’t finish a few chances, but really, there could have been more. Of the 20, few were quality.

by Jared on Sep 10, 2011 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

i was very mad about the first goal

it was off a quick restart that was taken 10 yards away from the actual incident of the foul. The ref never should have let that happen. Maybe the sounders didn’t do enough to win, but we definitely did enough to not lose. And although we may not have deserved the pk we definitely deserved one when a player was obviously shoved midair in the box. Make up no call. I hate blaming refs but this one definitely did enough to allow a fair result either team as his mistakes dictated the match.

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Sep 10, 2011 7:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

10 yards...?

In his thirty-minute-mark comments, Sigi claimed it was 25 yards ahead.

by regnaD kciN on Sep 10, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Evans injured AGAIN?

This guy is now on my list of chronically injured, undependable. He’s now missed most of two years.

by Milo1 on Sep 10, 2011 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

"They call me Mr. Glass"

I can’t see how he is protected for the next draft. If Montreal wants to take that risk they can have him.

by butterGlory on Sep 11, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Forward Depth

Thoughts on substitution pattern as it should be for the not Mongering spot: Fucito > Levesque > Jaqua > Noonan.

Section 120, Row G, Seat 13

by _zorbthegeek on Sep 10, 2011 8:17 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Damn autocorrect

mongering = montero

Section 120, Row G, Seat 13

by _zorbthegeek on Sep 10, 2011 8:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

How did autocorrect come up with that?

As far as I know, “mongering” isn’t even a word, unless you add “war” or “fish” to the front.

by regnaD kciN on Sep 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Looking ahead

Does anyone know what went on in the Herediano-Alajuelense game this evening? It looked like Herediano were 4-0 up with 5 mins left and then the ref called the game off…

by Targaff on Sep 10, 2011 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Ahaha, I found a match report
After Herediano went 4-0 up through a crisp header from Cristian Montero in the 75th minute, referee Walter Quesada dismissed Jorge Barbosa for reasons that remain unclear. The Brazilian reacted hotly, striking Jonathan Mcdonald in the face, which provoked a reaction from Mcdonald as well as from Porfirio Lopez, Elias Palma and led to a red card to Mcdonald.

They were joined on the sidelines in the 80th minute by Pablo Montero Cristian Gabas. Geancarlo Gonzalez and Marcelo Fazzio had already been sent off in the 35th and 70th minutes, and after Elias Palma fell to the ground claiming injury the match was abandoned with only 6 Alajuelense players left on the field.

by Targaff on Sep 10, 2011 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some quick thoughts:

1) When Kreis sees the replay of Hurtado’s “elbow” will he have a talking to with his players yet again about diving after his tirade earlier this season?

2) Keller’s gaffe left me dumbfounded and speechless. Given how money he is all other times though, I feel like he’s good for one of these types of things once in his career.

3) Montero’s roof shot was AWESOME

4) Riley was playing out of his mind today. I could not believe what I was seeing. I am a big fan of Riley and believe he plays very well anyway – but he was on another level today

5) Rosales continues to build his case for MVP, PK miss aside

6) We need to designate someone and keep it that way. I bet anybody here a beer that Rosales doesn’t miss again

7) I hope Rimando tries to blow his nose but nothing comes out on one side because that faceblock deviated his septum a little bit. (#ClassyRimandoHate)

by chrisperry1983 on Sep 10, 2011 10:15 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Hang on

Riley was playing out of his mind? That’s disregarding the numerous dangerous giveaways, right?

by Targaff on Sep 10, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Numerous?

I remember one. Other than that, I agree: Riley was a beast today. A bright spot for sure!

by bago'juice on Sep 10, 2011 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

RE: Riley..

…I must have been at a different match. Out of his mind, is not what I call how Riley played.

by Timm Higgins on Sep 10, 2011 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I also love Reily's attitude

He got right up in Espindola’s face and besides a couple of plays I thought he had a great game. He works so well with Rosales.

by butterGlory on Sep 11, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly. If we had to lose one

then I’d prefer it to be a completely flukey game full of bad calls. I am not worried about our form in the least.

by butterGlory on Sep 11, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it just me, or did that sobering 9/11 tribute kill the match

Poor choice of words, I know, but… I just felt that a two-minute-long remembrance of 9/11 from the 9th to 11th minute just marked the beginning of the end. It cast a solemn tone to the game, RSL scored immediately answered, and the game was not the same afterwards. Is it just me, or did anyone else notice the same?

by Lose-Lose on Sep 11, 2011 12:19 AM PDT reply actions  

Definitely

For that matter, well-intentioned as it undoubtedly was, waving weenie flags and shouting “USA” is a pretty miserable tribute. The moment’s silence before the game kicked off was traditional and immaculately observed, and simply playing and enoying the game to its fullest sends a far more impactful message of strength and unity than interrupting it for 2 minutes. That just says “hey, we’re still not over it”.

by Targaff on Sep 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

throw away game

There are always a handful of these a year. Honestly though this puts the supporters shield out of reach. It was going to be tough even 4 points behind now 7 points in 6 matches seems a bit too far out with how well LA is playing. This should allow us to focus on the CCL which if we win in costa rica we will have locked up a spot in the knockout stages.

It was just bizarro world out there today. I hate to say it, but we don’t play well after long rest and we don’t usually play as crisp in afternoon matches (crew match aside.)

Saborio flopped, sure there was a little contact which was exaggerated and therefore deceived the ref. Im not going to perscribe to the make-up call theory even though the ref didnt realize it was a 2nd yellow when he originally gave the 2nd yellow to Beltran, it was funny to see our players go talk to the ref and then the ref to a double take and begrudgingly take out the 2nd yellow though.

And the important thing to remember Montero has two goals in the last two matches. And im over that game now.

by python6114 on Sep 11, 2011 6:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

and of course

I mean begrudgingly take out the red card for the 2nd yellow.

by python6114 on Sep 11, 2011 6:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The double yellows is something I don't understand

Everyone seems to believe that it’s a yellow + orange to get a red. The fact that a player is already on a yellow should make the player more cautious not the ref.

by Derek R on Sep 11, 2011 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What always gets me is how clear it is that refs are not supposed to go to their books early.

You see commentators talk about it, basically complaining that if the ref starts booking people early, it’ll ruin the game because of the inevitable sending off. But if the ref doesn’t consistently book things that should be booked, the first 20 minutes or so can just be a free for all. Then when people go, “That’s soft for a second yellow…,” the frustration is often that somebody gets sent off for a simple or non-foul, but meanwhile, others pretty much have to pull out a knife to get the second one (last year’s world cup final is an example, or any time Real Madrid puts Pepe at mid against Barcelona).

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Sep 11, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I apperently share your misunderstanding.

I was at the game, same side of Beltran’s 2nd yellow, but on the other end of the field. From my spot, it looked like a soft foul, not deserving of a straight yellow. However, referee Mark Kadlecik appeared to have issued the yellow for persistent infringement, pointing to three different spots. On replay the foul looks harsher than it did live and shows that that it happened right in front of the AR who raised a very deliberate flag. I agree that any player who already has a yellow and appears not to be making an attempt to play with more caution deserves the second yellow. While it appears that Kadlecik didn’t realize that this was a second yellow, I don’t agree with the sentiment that it should even matter. Once a player has a yellow card, it is that player who should be more cautious, not the referee, exactly as you said.

by Eastside Ajacied on Sep 11, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't disagree with what you're getting at

But the ref clearly gave the second yellow for persistent infringement, and if you’re going to count in that accumulation a foul that you’ve already booked the player for, which he appeared to do, then the sentiment does matter, because then you’re effectively punishing the player twice for one infringment.

by Targaff on Sep 11, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldnt 4th place be more desirable at this point?

Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldnt we face a team from the East in that scenario. Having a lower seed seems to be the easiest way to the MLS cup, for the last couple of years at least.

by butterGlory on Sep 11, 2011 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

This year it would also involve an extra game...

It would also mean that we’d have to go on the road for the conference finals. While the East may theoretically be easier, crossing over to get there probably isn’t. The difference between playing the league’s 6th best team and playing the 3rd best team, for instance, is not a great enough difference to justify wanting to play an extra game. That make sense?

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 11, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not that I would want to lose the chance to have a home playoff game..

it’s that the road through the West is so much harder. Oh well, we’ll have to beat LA sometime, and it will be that much sweeter when we do.

Yesterdays game just provided a great opportunity for complaining, since I was out of champagne.

by butterGlory on Sep 11, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The teams are better yes

But traveling 3 time zones tends to hurt teams, and playing extra game hurts as well.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 11, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

also 2nd place is what we should aim for

If we cant catch LA. This means we have 1st rd bye, 2nd round return leg game, and if LA makes the MLS Cup final we get a birth in CCL if we havent booked one yet via USOC.

by Colin Johnson on Sep 11, 2011 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'd only be at a disadvantage for that once.

We’d host the WC game, get home-and-away in the first round. We’d have to travel 3 time zones only for the conference final.

by Tohoya on Sep 12, 2011 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

We'd still have to play an extra game

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 12, 2011 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Having 3 time zone travel in a one off Confernce Final

Is a large disadvantage

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by Dave Clark on Sep 12, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

This train of thought bothers me.

If we can’t beat Dallas and LA to get to the MLS cup, we don’t deserve it. We should never look for the easy route. We need to earn our way into it.

by Christopher David Maddux on Sep 11, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like Colorado!

Maybe they didn’t deserve it, but they won it.

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by sidereal on Sep 12, 2011 12:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't change the fact

That throwing a game for any reason is unconscionable. I would hope that our team would never use that ‘strategy’.

by Christopher David Maddux on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Totally agree

It’s still hard to not think to do that though. Look how it turned out for them!

by chrisperry1983 on Sep 13, 2011 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

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