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State of the MLS Run In: 6 Weeks To Go

As the regular season winds down I'm going to be posting a weekly summary of the some of the data and predictions we're generating, which should give you some context going into each week of games.

Previous Week

MLS play got back into the full swing of things last week after the international break, and it was a week that had a dramatic impact on the state of the league. One of the subtleties of using a simulation to determine probabilities is that some results matter more than others. If a team is very likely to win a game then their average result in a simulation will be quite high — sometimes over 2 points. And if that team then goes on to actually win the game then the difference between reality and our prediction is less than a point, so it doesn't move the needle on the probabilities much. But if a team is very favored to win a game (like say FC Dallas vs New England) then the difference between prediction and reality is over 2 points and can have a much bigger impact on the results. In a week where multiple seemingly unlikely outcomes occur, there can be big shifts in the predictions. This week saw Real Salt Lake beat the Seattle Sounders in Seattle, FC Dallas lose to New England, and the New York Red Bulls get held to a draw at home by the Vancouver Whitecaps. The first means that the Supporter's Shield race is all but done. The first two combine to put Real Salt Lake in the driver's seat for the 3rd position in the Western Conference. And the last changes the picture in the Eastern Conference and the bottom of the wild card standings.

Playoff & Trophy Probabilities

This is each team's up to date odds of making the playoffs, winning the Supporter's Shield, and winning the MLS Cup based on simulating the remainder of the season 10000 times.

  Avg PosAvg PointsPlayoff %ChangeSupporters
Shield %
MLS Cup %
Los Angeles 1.13 64.81 100.0 -- 89.32 21.50
Seattle 2.87 57.25 100.0 -- 4.38 12.01
Real Salt Lake 3.02 56.69 100.0 +0.10 5.68 11.02
FC Dallas 3.76 55.18 100.0 -- 0.58 7.59
Kansas City 6.60 48.92 97.16 +8.39 0.0 12.34
Columbus 6.74 49.40 96.34 -1.46 0.02 9.80
Colorado 6.83 48.79 97.72 -0.04 0.00 4.08
DC United 7.52 47.73 87.86 +21.08 0.02 10.83
Philadelphia 8.89 45.17 76.71 -6.36 0.00 5.40
New York 10.30 42.84 61.24 -8.43 0.0 3.10
Houston 10.79 42.61 42.11 -7.31 0.0 1.37
Portland 11.28 42.10 33.24 +7.32 0.0 0.51
Chivas USA 13.08 38.62 9.77 -11.83 0.0 0.37
Chicago 14.40 36.36 2.89 -3.28 0.0 0.02
San Jose 14.51 36.53 2.89 +2.12 0.0 0.04
New England 15.62 34.44 0.46 +0.41 0.0 0.02
Toronto FC 16.23 33.59 0.04 +0.04 0.0 0.0
Vancouver 17.44 29.99 0.0 -- 0.0 0.0
Avg Pts for Playoffs43.24

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Teams Eliminated

Teams that have been eliminated by three decreasingly stringent standards. Read here for more details.

  • Mathematical Elimination (Unable to make the playoffs in any scenario)
    None
  • Effective Elimination (Unable to make 40 points even with perfect play)
    None
  • Projected Elimination (less than 1% chance of making the playoffs in simulation)
    New England, Toronto FC, Vancouver

Remaining Strength of Schedule

Using the same simulation, we can also determine remaining schedule strength by seeing how a league average team would do with each team's remaining schedule. Teams at the top have schedules against which an average team got the most PPG, meaning we think they have the easiest remaining schedule.

  Avg Team PointsMatchesPts / Match
Colorado7.5851.516
Toronto FC7.4251.484
FC Dallas8.77161.462
DC United12.88491.432
Seattle8.57661.429
Portland9.90371.415
Chicago9.68771.384
New England8.24961.375
Vancouver9.6271.374
New York9.54371.363
Kansas City8.16361.36
Los Angeles8.13661.356
Houston8.03561.339
Chivas USA7.9161.318
Real Salt Lake10.45181.306
Philadelphia9.11571.302
Columbus9.05571.294
San Jose8.6271.231

Seattle's First Round Opponent

This is the likelihood of each team being the first playoff opponent for Seattle (either in the preliminary round or — more likely — in the Conference Semifinals).

  Matchup %
Real Salt Lake 45.7%
FC Dallas 23.4%
Colorado 4.9%
Los Angeles 4.2%
New York 4.1%
Houston 4.0%
Philadelphia 3.4%
Portland 3.3%
DC United 2.0%

Cascadia Cup Odds

This is the % chance for each of the Cascadia teams of winning the rivalry cup.

  Odds
Seattle 64.66
Portland 19.91
Vancouver 15.43

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I'd much rather face RSL than FCD in the first round

I think we showed that despite the loss, we were definitely the better team (and we also beat them at Rio Tinto fairly comfortably), but it’s always elbows and nail-biters with FCD.

by Nevtelen on Sep 13, 2011 5:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Somewhat unrelated

LA lost 2-1 to Morelia in their CCL game, and Colorado currently losing 2-0, somewhere around the 50th minute (I think)

by chrisperry1983 on Sep 13, 2011 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

LA was robbed

That goal was not offside.

by Derek R on Sep 13, 2011 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know that he was pushed

But the player pressuring Saunders should have been called offside.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 14, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

statistics are dumb

Cause Sounders will win the Supporters shield and MLS Cup!

by RalfZakuani on Sep 13, 2011 8:43 PM PDT reply actions  

SportingKC with the 2nd-best odds of winning the MLS Cup?

Surprising, but I guess the statistical chances of winning the MLS Cup improve when you don’t have to face LAG until the final round.

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by J.Schnauzer on Sep 14, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 14, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

And it's on neutral ground

Oh wait…..

I still have to make the adjustment that the MLS Cup is a home game for the Galaxy. That should jack up their cup odds a bit.

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by sidereal on Sep 14, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

all you need to know about how stupid the MLS playoffs are

is demonstrated in the fact that the 5th team has the same odds to win the Championship as the 2nd team.

Regular season mean much?!

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Sep 14, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

According to the numbers above it means a lot for the supporter's shield winner

That was the stated goal for the new system, to give the Supporter’s Shield winner the best chance to win the Cup also.

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Sep 14, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The top three in the East have a worse chance than 2-4 in West

So yes, the regular season is meaningful

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by Dave Clark on Sep 15, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, they've been consistently climbing

Half of it is their fairly good play and the other half is the total collapse of the Chivas/Chicago/New York/Houston tier

Nos Audietis

by sidereal on Sep 15, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

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