Seattle Sounders v DC United - Interactive Lineup Card, Statistics

by Dave Clark on Sep 16, 2011 3:45 PM PDT in Sounders: MLS Regular Season

Neither the Seattle Sounders nor DC United will be going into the Saturday 6PM match will have their preferred XI. DC lost DP Branko Boscovic early in the year and Chris Pontius just last week. For the Sounders Sigi Schmid isn't used to picking his first choice. With significant injuries marring most of the year, intermittent injuries popping up and the packed schedule the lineup shifts are so frequent they aren't surprising.

The Red Card to Jhon Kennedy Hurtado will force a change at centerback. At this point it is clear that Jeff Parke will and can play in nearly every single game. His companion could either go with Zach Scott or Patrick Ianni. Our guess leans towards Ianni due to his lateral speed which will be necessary against Charlie Davies. In the midfield we know that Brad Evans and Osvaldo Alonso have returned to health.

That complicates the already crowded left midfield and other central midfield projections. Lamar Neagle, Alvaro Fernandez and Evans could all start. Considering today that Sigi stated he wanted to reduce United's ability to counter-attack the thought was Evans in the middle with Neagle on the left as he's slightly fresher. None of the three would be a surprise. At this point there is no reason to not expect the small/small pairing up top with Mauro Rosales on the right.

Black & Red United provide the DC United lineup. The significant change is Santino Quaranta on the left and Dwayne De Rosario in a CAM role where he can either flash into a goalscoring role, or be the provider. If that space sounds familiar, it would be a similar thing to Montero as the treq. The main difference is that he'll have two strong goal scorers in front of him.

The added lenght let's you see more player stats. Is this good?

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Hamid

Was wondering if anyone has heard any new info. IL has him as probable, but this article makes it seem like he hasn’t even trained this week.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/09/15/united-could-be-without-hamid-jakovic-against-sounders

by Dan Olson on Sep 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT reply actions

Given all of Davies PKs, I'm surprised DCU is -3 on set pieces.

by yuniform on Sep 16, 2011 4:18 PM PDT reply actions

I don't include PKs in set-lays, because there is more skill in winning them

than making them.

So do I count it as run of play, or dead ball? Also not tracked in either metric is “rebound” nor “Own goal”

All three could be argued in either situation.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 16, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Fernandez is out for tuesdays game so i wouldn't be surprised if he gets the start today

by Sandra_R on Sep 16, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions

tomorrow*

by Sandra_R on Sep 16, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

tomorrow*

by Sandra_R on Sep 16, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

I love you tomorrow

You’re only a day away!

And… then the Sounders play!!

Hooray!

by Orothar on Sep 16, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

really?

Wow, that totally got past me.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 17, 2011 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions

he got his second yellow of group stage on tuesday

by Sandra_R on Sep 17, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Why do some players have two rows?

Separate roles like M/F?

by bmvaughn on Sep 17, 2011 9:00 AM PDT reply actions

I don't have a player coming up with two rows

Can you give me one player you are getting this for?

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by Dave Clark on Sep 17, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions

On Chrome

This is what I see:

Figure it means different positions?

by bmvaughn on Sep 17, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions

Nope, data entry error

They transitioned from one page to another in the data source so Noonan and Carrasco had a line for both game before last totals and after them. I’m correcting that now.

I though DeRo would be the bigger issue as his position and team has shifted so much. It wasn’t a problem at all.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 17, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions

I also lengthened the vis so that more player stats could be seen

Do you like that?

It grants space to expand somethings that we used to do.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 17, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions

This game will be really interesting.

DC plays alot of counter attack, so it will probably be a quick end to end game. Another interesting stat i see is that we tend to generate lots of shots in a game, and united seems to give up lots of shots. That should help us.

DeRoe’s numbers are scary good.

Cant wait for the game.

by MurrayD on Sep 17, 2011 9:31 AM PDT reply actions

fullbacks

if DCU does run a diamond, the lack of width is something our fullbacks ought to take advantage of. Sounders can create a 4 v 3 on defense if they drop Alonso deep and bring the other CM (Evans?) in as a CDM as the “extra man” to help stifle the DCU tridente. That would allow the fullbacks to push high and play more as wingbacks/midfielders, helping with width as out winger may need to suck inside a bit to defend the DCU outside mids. If we can create a situation where our it our fullbacks high up the pitch against theirs, and we can control possession, we could really pin them back. It will be interesting to see if we have the ability and flexibility to pull this off

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by malcontentjake on Sep 17, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions

I expect Riley to have a big game

and Rosales to benefit from that.

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by sidereal on Sep 17, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions

The Biggest Factor Could Be ... Kevin Stott

We have him again. He’s remarkably terrible. It’s rare that he is the head ref and you don’t walk away muttering his name (the yellow on Zak for “diving” in Houston last year, for example). Let’s just hope that when this game is in the books we’re volleying cheers of “Mauro!” or “Montero!” and not muttering “…Stott…”. The bar is pretty low for him after the last game, and the game in Dallas. That was some of the very worst I’ve seen in a while….and it was not him.

by exSlacker on Sep 17, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions

oh...did I mention that he's the one who pointed to the spot

… when Neagle was taken down in the box and then didn’t award it against Chivas??? It cost us the only 2 points we didn’t take in August. Yeah….THAT guy.

by exSlacker on Sep 17, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I've never focused on referees

In the end good teams win inspite of bad referees, and a team can only control their own behavior

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by Dave Clark on Sep 17, 2011 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions

...and despite a bad referee, we did win...

but his abject failure to control the game….AGAIN….led to unmitigated thuggish play that has landed one of the most skilled, least thuggish, players in the MLS on the injury list with a sprained knee. I GET that refs have a hard job. I GET that there will always be bad calls. You don’t hear me calling out, for example, Terry Vaughn for being consistently terrible. That’s because he isn’t. But Stott – is anyone really surprised that it was his game in which this sort of crap happened? We managed to get Tim Weyland out of MLS…but somehow Stott ends up “Ref of the Year” last year. WTF? Am I the only one who thinks this guy is terrible and that he ends up being what you talk about after his games?

by exSlacker on Sep 18, 2011 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Do you actually think that was a tackle that is unusual?

It was a fairly average hard tackle at a stupid time in the game for a hard tackle. It wasn’t dirty.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 19, 2011 7:57 AM PDT up reply actions

that tackle was a symptom...

of a game in which a referee never established that he was in control of the game. Maybe I just catch all of Stott’s very worst games. I don’t know. You don’t seem to have any sort of problem with him, and I certainly respect your opinion. I feel like ref’s have an opportunity to set a tone and establish a sort of dominance/respect early on. The really good ones do it by pulling aside players early on when they can see a pattern to the fouling, or an intent, even if the foul itself isn’t super-outrageous. A good talking to with a stare that tell the player “I’m not playing around and I will boot your ass out of this game” can go a long way. As a side note – if Kevin Stott really is our “ref of the year”, doesn’t that really say that we have a problem? I suspect that, even if feel I judge him harshly, you still wouldn’t hold him up as “the example for others to follow”…would you?

by exSlacker on Sep 19, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions

To me it isn't about Stott

I much prefer teams that self define rather thn let the referee define the game. Focusing on the referee means you aren’t following the game of soccer, and that’s where the focus will always be for me.

I didn’t vote for Stott last year (well not for 1st), there were only 3 options though.

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by Dave Clark on Sep 19, 2011 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions

Agree..to a point.

I agree that as a player you can’t focus on a ref (beyond knowing “this guy allows physical play” or “this guy has a rep for cards”). But, in a given game, I’ve seen lots of good teams lose due to a bad ref. A single call like Zak last year can be 2 points. Yes, over the run of play, it generally evens out, and good teams don’t let it bother them going forward. But fans tonight aren’t attending “over the run of play”, they are attending a single game. One in which Stott is in control. I sincerely, truly hope that he is a non-factor. I HAVE seen him call a game where his name doesn’t make the game summary…but not often. So I repeat – prepare yourselves for a Kevin Stott called game.

by exSlacker on Sep 17, 2011 2:32 PM PDT reply actions