CCL Changes and the Sounders
CONCACAF announced major changes to the 2012-13 CCL format today. No longer will there be any play-in games. All 24 teams advance directly to group play. Group play itself is also significantly changed. The 2011-12 group play saw four groups with four teams each battle it out with the top two from each group advancing. 2012-13 will be completely different. The 24 teams will be divided into eight groups containing three teams each. Only the top team in each group will continue on to the knock-out rounds in the Spring of 2013.
The selection of the three teams for each group will be drawn using the following seeding:
#1 Seeds: Mexico 1, Mexico 2, USA 1, USA 2, Costa Rica 1, Guatemala 1, Honduras 1, Panama 1
#2 Seeds: Mexico 3, Mexico 4, USA 3, USA 4, Canada 1, Costa Rica 2, Honduras 2, El Salvador 1
#3 Seeds: Belize 1 (pending stadium approval), El Salvador 2, Nicaragua 1, Guatemala 2, Panama 2, Caribbean 1, Caribbean 2, Caribbean 3
In selecting each group, the following rules apply*:
- No two teams from the same country may be placed together in a group
- Each group must contain 1 team from either the US or Mexico
* These rules would not apply to a wildcard team if one were needed to replace a qualifying team if that team is unable to participate for some reason (no suitable stadium, lack of funds, etc)
These changes are designed to significantly reduce schedule congestion - and they certainly DO accomplish that goal. In 2011-12 each team had to play a minimum of six games (eight if they, like the Sounders, did not go straight to group play) before becoming eligible to advance to the knock-out rounds. This year that will be reduced to just four, with only two on the road/out of the country. The takeaway will be a much easier path for US-based MLS teams to the knock-out stages. Barring the introduction of a wildcard team, a team such as the Sounders will avoid facing any Mexican sides in group play, and will have a very solid chance at advancing.
The downside of this new format is that there will likely be a great deal more disparity of quality between groups. The luck of the draw becomes a much bigger deal. A really good draw, for example, might be Seattle Sounders FC, Metapan, Joe Public. A bad draw might land a group such as Seattle Sounders FC, Alajuelense, Tauro .. or Seattle Sounders FC, Toronto FC/Montreal/Vancouver, Municipal with one of the Canadian MLS teams finally putting together a better run (I keep waiting for it ... they have talent ... sooner or later it is bound to happen).
There are many berths that will be decided this spring/summer, including the Canadian winner and the various Clausura champions. It is unclear to me how the 1 vs 2 seeds will be decided for countries with Apertura/Clausura systems, as those are basically two separate seasons. I'm guessing overall points for the two combined? Here are the seeds as they currently exist.
#1 Seeds:
Tigres UANL
'12 Mexican Clausura Champion
Seattle Sounders FC
Alajuelense/'12 Costa Rican Clausura Champion?
Municipal/'12 Guatemalan Clausura Champion?
Olimpia/'12 Honduras Clausura Champion?
Chorillo FC/'12 Panamian Clausura Champion?
#2 Seeds:
Santos Laguna
'12 Mexican Clausura Runner-Up
'12 Nutrilite Candadian Champion
Alajuelense/'12 Costa Rican Clausura Champion?
Olimpia/'12 Honduras Clausura Champion?
Metapan/'12 El Salvadorian Clausura Champion?
#3 Seeds:
Belize Champion (pending approval of suitable stadium)
Metapan/'12 El Salvadorian Clausura Champion?
Municipal/'12 Guatemalan Clausura Champion?
Nicaraguan Champion
Chorillo FC/'12 Panamian Clausura Champion?
2012 CFU Club Championship Winner
2012 CFU Club Championship Runner-Up
2012 CFU Club Championship 3rd Place
What do you think of this new format? Who would you like to see the Sounders draw?
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i want a team from the bahamas
Thats the away trip of awesomeness.
by python6114 on Jan 15, 2012 10:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Hadn't thought of it from that angle...
That’s probably because I have a 2 year old and a 5 year old at home, making such trips nearly impossible at this point in my life. With that said, you have a pretty good chance of drawing some attractive away destinations. How about Costa Rica and Trinidad? Panama and Puerto Rico? BEST YET – Vancouver and Nassau?? Here is a Sounder-centric breakdown by destination:
We get a 2 and a 3 seed in our group with Mexico and US teams excluded which means we go to:
Canada OR Costa Rico OR Honduras OR El Salvador (even chances of each)
AND
Belize OR El Savador OR Guatemala OR Nicaragua OR Panama OR a Caribbean Nation (1 in 8 of the first 5, 3 in 8 of a Caribbean nation).
So…you have a 37.5% chance of getting an island nation (or Guyana or Suriname, which part of the CFU). If we look at the top 3 finishers in the CFU Cup for last 4 years it was held, you have:
5 of 12 from Trinidad and Tabago
4 of 12 from Puerto Rico
1 of 12 (x3) from Haiti, Guyana, and Jamaica
Regrettably, the Bahamas have never entered a team in to the CFU Cup….nor have the BVI. A guy can dream though, right?
Fleet?
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Costa Rica and T&T
I think that’s a saleable tour
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