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2011 Soccer Tools Review: Central Midfield Engine

Osvaldo Alonso isn't just the most complete player on Seattle Sounders FC. He is one of the most complete players in MLS.

Sigi Schmid refers to his central midfielders as the engine room. Whether these players are glamorous playmakers, defensive stalwarts or a box-to-box man who gets ignored or pilloried by fans these are players who make or break seasons. For Seattle Sounders FC the center includes a player who many will claim is their best, the Honey Badger. For the authors of the site this section features the most tactically aware group of players on the team.

Osvaldo Alonso is the player who we consider the most complete player on the team. In 2011 he displayed passing and dribbling skills that were infrequently displayed in 2010. The best example of his on-ball footwork may be his splitting multiple defenders prior slotting home the dagger against the Chicago Fire in the US Open Cup Final. Already a strong defender the past season saw development even in his strongest skill. He just doesn't care who dribbles the ball, admitting confusion when asked if he felt he needed to try harder against the league's best. Fast, strong and tactically aware Alonso isn't just a defensive mid he can pop into the offense to slam a long shot on goal to more effect as he's spent time in MLS. There may be no player in the league rated as strong throughout our skill rating as Alonso.

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Player Role Technical Tactical Offense Defense Physique Average
Alonso CenterMid 7.6 8.3 6.8 10 9 8.34
Evans CenterMid 5 8.6 6.4 6 6.5 6.5
Carrasco CenterMid 5 6 4.5 7.8 6.8 6.02
Seamon CenterMid 4.3 4.7 5.8 5 5 4.96

The returning partner for Alonso is Brad Evans. Of players that frustrate Sounders fans Evans is the only one who returns. Whether frustrated at his misses or primarily lateral passes the fanbase's desire to see a playmaker might be one of the reasons. But what he does well in his box-to-box role is occupy spaces to cut off passing lanes, defend fairly well (in particularly in the air). More than suitable as a partner in midfield Evans is a great example of an "engine" player. He moves the ball but never the final pass and puts himself into dangerous positions through strong runs. There's something to be said about a player who puts themselves into those places so frequently, no matter what they do with the ball.

Initially surprising, the writers feel strongly about Servando Carrasco. He averages well. His willingness to use his body defensively pulls up those ratings. The youngster isn't the most technical Sounder and certainly lacks on the offensive end at this time. He has managed a few pretty moments with the ball, but he is a more traditional holding mid. He stops opponent attacks. He is the shield in front of the backline, doing that well. He could possibly start on a few MLS sides, but in Seattle is the back-up to one of the best who can also come on as a late game lead protector.

Though injured through much of the year Mike Seamon was strong in Reserve League play. There he showed an ability to be an assist man even though he was often the deeper of the two midfielders. This next season will probably be the one where we see if Seamon is an MLS regular or a fringe man on a very deep roster.

Player Role Technical Tactical Offense Defense Physique Average
Fernandez Winger 8.2 8.2 7.2 4.3 4.6 6.5

We'll dive deeper into Alvaro Fernandez when talking about the wingers later, but since he may play centrally more in 2012 his ratings are offered for perspective now.

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It was his answer when I asked him

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by Dave Clark on Jan 3, 2012 9:06 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He's so Honey Badger...

and he doesn’t even know it.

by Derek Young on Jan 3, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

He's just a awesome little wizard, isn't he?

FRIMPONG ought always be written in full caps #DEEEEEEENCH

by Kyle Ritter on Jan 3, 2012 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

My wife said...

“honey, are we a farm team for bigger leagues?” I said, “Not really, but it would be great for us to develop our players to the point that the other leagues can’t leave us alone.” She didn’t like that answer and said, “Please don’t ever tell me that Honey Badger is leaving us.” I was so proud… so I’ll let you guys tell her when it happens… ok.

I agree with all that you wrote about Evans. He’s great box to box and the tactical rating is spot on. that being said, when all of our wingers are healthy, assuming they will be, and assuming Neagle keeps developing like he has, any good thoughts or arguments on pulling Rosales into that playmaker role in the center? I feel like he fits well on the right, but often we get that “collapsed diamond” out of him due to his willingness to play through the middle with the ball at his feet.

by AVUrlacher on Jan 3, 2012 9:43 AM PST reply actions  

If Seattle played a diamond Rosales in the middle might make sense

But they don’t, particularly because it crowds the space where Fredy Montero likes to operate. He’s also the best crosser on the team, until Johansson proves otherwise, so while he does dive centrally at times it is usually quite late in the attacking third. Early in the season he and Evans would swap spaces offensively. Early in the season the team’s offense wasn’t as good as it was at the end.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 3, 2012 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

agreed

He is our best man on the cross. When he does dart into the middle it is late in the attack. I’m just trying to think of the best way to keep our best players on the field at the same time when Zak, Alonso, Flaco, Mauro are all healthy. I guess Fernandez would be a better fit inside than Rosales in that case. With the current roster, and everyone available what combination in midfield do you like best?

by AVUrlacher on Jan 3, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I seem to remember Mauro starting in place of Fredy

in one game? Because of yellow card accumulation or injury. He looked good centrally there, but if both of them are on the field trying to play centrally I’d imagine they’d want to be occupying roughly the same space and get in each others way.

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by 253Sounder on Jan 3, 2012 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it was two games even

I like him in that role at times, but similar to the Freddyain (two freddies) situation I don’t know that it would work regularly.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 3, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Alonso is the best central midfielder we go

greatgorge at attacking and beast on defence can’t ask for more

by alexyepz on Jan 3, 2012 9:50 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Alonso passing rated too high, you guys are sprung on him.

Why is his passing rated so much higher than his teammates? Did you watch the the playoff match at RSL? Also, aren’t player nicknames usually given by teammates or coaches? Please ease up on the use of the contrived and cloying moniker “honey bear”.

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by seattle dude on Jan 3, 2012 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Er, badger or whatever

just stop before we have to have an intervention, cheers!

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by seattle dude on Jan 3, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I have no issue with Ozzie's ratings

He’s being compared to the other CM’s on the team, which compared to them (and not Rosales, Flaco, Montero et al) he is a better techincally and tactically. Ozzie played terrible in RSL, then again so did just about everyone, so using that game as a baseline by which to jud his play and skill set is pretty unrealistic.

As for the nickname? Generally speaking, athlete nicknames are coined by local media/childhood origin and considering that Ozzie really doesnt care (his words) calling him “Honey Badger” seems apt.

Go banana!

by Disco_Stew on Jan 3, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

All players are rated on the same scale

straight 6s would be a league average box-to-box midfielder (ie 2010 Nathan Sturgis).

Four players will have higher technical ability than Alonso, all offensive players. All but one wingers.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 3, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Technical ability is about more than passing

It is a combination of all on-ball skills, both offense and defense. We will also rate players off of their full performance not a single game in a season long review.

I didn’t know that teammates/coaches had sole purview on nicknames

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by Dave Clark on Jan 3, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Amadou Sanyang

No mention of him in this article? Any idea why we got him from Toronto midseason inspite of running out of space

by Green Apple on Jan 3, 2012 2:27 PM PST reply actions  

Sorry

Sanyang did not meet our number of views standard.

He’s a very young pro who can play CDM, CB, RB. I rated him as;
Technical Ability 4
Tactical Judgement 5
Offensive Skills 4
Defensive Skills 6.5
Physique 5

I want to see more of him and think that he can be a much better player than he currently rates.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 3, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

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