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2011 Soccer Tools Review: Wingers

Mauro Rosales and Lamar Neagle showed why writers call the Seattle Sounders wide players wingers rather than midfielders.

A former trialist, a former Uruguay World Cup national team player and a Generation Adidas #1 pick headline the strongest positional set of Seattle Sounder FC. Sigi uses these men to be the playmakers on the outside, each in their own way. Two are used to chase long balls, only one is a traditional crosser and all tuck into take shots. These top three were as important to scoring offense as any set of forwards. Backing them up were a local man who succeeded in his return to the squad while learning his third role in three years, a former first round pick transitioning between roles and the ForMidFender who has to be listed somewhere.

No player demonstrated the global soccer market's flaws in churn, rumor mongering and sheer size than Mauro Rosales. From #TheTrialist picked up off of a scrap heap in Mexico he is now a DP quality player and the second Sounder to win the MLS Newcomer of the Year. Rosales stunned Seattle fans with his dribbling and passing skills. His vision was such that it seemed he always new the right time to cross, to dive in from the elbow or to initiate a multi-man passing sequence. The rangy player is able to speed down the flank and one time a cross into danger or flash into the box from a central position and shoot on goal. His defense also clearly demonstrates that Seattle plays with wingers not wide midfielders. Playing high up on the field his pressure tended to be light and he could be beat easily, but he'd always be ready to be the second man in a counter. His only other "hole" in his game might be a lack of strength on the ball as he'd get knocked down a bit too frequently. Rosales is the player rated second highest based on their 2011 tools review.

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Player Role Technical Tactical Offense Defense Physique Average
Rosales Winger 9.2 9.6 9.2 4.6 6.8 7.88
Zakuani Winger 7.8 6.4 8.8 3.2 8.4 6.92
Fernandez Winger 8.2 8.2 7.2 4.3 4.6 6.5
Neagle Winger 6.3 5.7 8 3.5 5.7 5.84
Estrada Winger 5.5 5 5.5 4.7 5.8 5.3
Levesque Winger 4 5.8 4.8 5 5.8 5.08

It is all too easy to forget how good Steve Zakuani was. And maybe our memories of his play lead to a lowering of his ratings. Even so he rates third highest offensively. Positional awareness defensively combined with a sometimes too frequent emptying of the wide left area without support frustrate some at times. Still Zakuani with the ball at his feet is a moment that causes even the most callous of crowds to rise to their feet. His footwork is special and vision impressive. Is there a bit of selfishness at times? Sure. There's also incredible goals from angles that should never be finished. While he may not win 10/40 metrics there is no Sounder faster with the ball. Zakuani uses that tool better than any, so much so that his lack of strength is rarely apparent. How much he can come back to a form that has always been magical may be the question of the year for Seattle's offense.

While Alvaro Fernandez took his time adjusting to the team and league after his World Cup appearances a funny little thing happened. The player who was seen by many here as being an ideal central midfielder became a huge offensive threat and maybe the most dangerous target of a high cross on the team. He's second on the team in scoring and points in the season and a half on the roster. There are times when he shows a certain flair with the ball popping the ball into dimensions that are often unseen on American soil. When used as a wide player he doesn't have the typical speed, but he does get back defensively more often than most wingers. Fernandez tends to find quite well. He doesn't take the physical abuse well, a problem that many players transitioning from Latin leagues carry, but if he can make the strides that Montero did Alvaro will be a complete player who can play anywhere in a band of three or up top as a left wing in a three man attack.

Lamar Neagle is a great off pitch story. But that story shouldn't overshadow what he did last season. He became a player who could provide offensive spark mainly on the left, but sometimes the right. Similar stylistically to Zakuani without the technical skills he uses speed quite well. Prone to taking a shot rather than passing to the open man in the box his special day against the Columbus Crew show how good that can be. Errors defensively are a bit too common and we'd like to see him shut down space when Seattle turns the ball over as well. Neagle is a useful player who can start for many teams, who if he makes a few advancements in technical ability and vision will force Sigi to make tough lineup decisions during the 2012 season.

Seattle's depth on the wing allows Sigi Schmid to try players in other positions. David Estrada's use in league play is only on the wing, but in Reserve play he was a CAM/WF and there was a practice experiment of him at rightback. Estrada's strengths are speed, dribbling and passing. He lacks a bit defensively but should improve with time. In ways he's a 5 tool kid who could develop into more and showed promise late in the season that may prove that he was worth that first round pick. Or he could wind up with a long career of use like veteran Roger Levesque. Levesque is multi-faceted in role, an opportune poacher who finds himself in great spaces quite often. He doesn't have the speed he did in the USL (where he once played as a CDM for a few games) and like all players at his age and skill is finding ways to continue contributing through desire and intelligent play. He may only rate as replacement level by authors here based on his tools, but a replacement level player who can play as a forward, either side winger and even at right back holds a lot of value when on a low contract.

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I think Zakuani's technical and tactical are too low

specifically technical. I think he should be at or just below Rosales’ score in that category, and in the low-mid 8’s for tactical. The rest are fitting though, especially defense.

by chrisperry1983 on Jan 4, 2012 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

As much as I enjoy when Zakuani gets the ball

He seemed a bit of a one-trick pony to me. It’s a great trick — tease a bit, then sprint past the back and turn the corner inches from the goal/end line — and it works well against the typical MLS fullback. However, watching him play in the showcase friendlies (I’m thinking specifically Chelsea) he was able to get away with it once and only once before being shut down.

(I, too, was unclear that speed figured into “physique” but can’t suggest a better term that includes all the aspects of athleticism I think you’re trying to convey.)

by CityDrew on Jan 4, 2012 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

speed, strength, height all in physique

It’s about how the player uses those various attributes. Nyassi was given a high number even though he only has one of them, but he used it to great effect.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 4, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I think Rosales' physique score is too high

He is 5’8 and maybe 160 soaking wet. He goes down a little too easily some times and has been susceptible to injury both pre and post signing. I love the guy but think his physique score should be closer to 5.9 or 6.1

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by chrisso on Jan 4, 2012 10:49 AM PST reply actions  

This is something Zak could learn from Neagle.

For an inverted winger he doesn’t seem to cut in as often as I would expect. Most of his attacks are geared around getting around the outside of the full back, getting to the end line and sending a pass or shot into the middle.

Neagle, while less talented overall, is really dangerous when he cuts inside the fullback and hits a shot from the 18. I wish Zak would add this to his game more. The only time I remember him doing anything like this was against LA in the playoffs when he scored in the Away Leg.

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by DarthGreedo on Jan 4, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

estrada needs some confidence

i get the feeling that all estrada needs is a strong performance. kinda like neagle’s play away at RSL last year. he just needs one strong performance to get some confidence.

Because otherwise, he has been very dissappointing. granted he is a cheap spot on the roster.

by fuzzyforeigner on Jan 4, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

Something about the average column bugs me.

First I want to say I really really like these posts after each year. I think they add good perspective and tools to judge the talent on the team.

What is bugging me is that the average column, since all the grades are compared to a CM, it doesn’t really mean anything for the other positions. Basically you could be the best forward on the planet, have all 10’s except for a 2 in defense and your average would be the same as Ozzie. Now I love Ozzie, and he is one of, if not the best in MLS at his position, but he isn’t the same as the mythical all 10s striker. Or in a more real example, Fernandez average out to a 6.5, or only .5 points higher than Nathan Sturgis. I think Fernandez is much better than Sturgis than just half a point, and I think you would see that if Fernandez was asked to play CM and thus have more defensive responsibilities.

So it almost feels like we need another column that is average for position or something that normalized for what is asked of each position.

by Czazall on Jan 4, 2012 2:09 PM PST reply actions  

There's no evidence that Fernandez defense would improve just because he'd move positions

Just like there’s no evidence that Parke’s offense would be better if he played forward.

But I can look at the data we have and see some averages by role

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by Dave Clark on Jan 4, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

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