Practice Report: Drills, Small Sided and Wide Field Games
Roster flux continues though all under contract players are still with the team, some of the Supplemental Draft picks and trialists are now in a different phase of their soccer journeys. Joshua Mayers, of the Seattle Times, compiled the list of missing names. Harlinton Guiterres, Real Espana reservist, is still in camp. After practice Sigi Schmid noted that Alex Caskey was in the concussion protocol and Josh Ford's injury is a lingering issue of unknown recovery length. Mike Fucito also did not practice today for injury reasons.
Today's sessions featured finishing drills running concurrent to a large wide field game with three mini goals per side. As Coach Schmid indicated last week these styles of exercise are new to this preseason as the team had earlier focused on fitness and passing drills. Later there were two small sided games where quick passing and attacking were at a premium.
Post practice Sigi provided more clarification to what he expects from the central defenders this year and the difference between being an attacking player as opposed to an option to maintain possession and reset the attack.
It's not that I expect the defenders to be storming forward like mad men into the attacking parts of the field. What I want is for them to be more involved when a play breaks down for them to be an option to play back to. Then they can move the ball, get the ball to the other side of the field... and not sort of feel that the ball is there now and it's not coming back to us and we're out of the play. There's always going to be opportunities to get our left back forward, our right back forward at the right times, that's the way I've always coached and the way my teams have always played. On the same token I'm not looking for Jeff Parke or the other centerback to make a rambling 30 yard run slashing past three players in middle of the midfield and having a shot from the 20.
What I'm looking for is that they are involved, and that if they see the play breaking down on one side of the field they say 'hey give it to me' and I can get it to the other side of the field. So I'm not uninvolved now because we're in the attacking third of the field. Instead I'm involved in terms of the play breaking down.'
Sigi also noted that David Estrada is now seeing more time as a forward due to the unknown length of O'Brian White's condition and Estrada's ability to fit into that role.
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From the Club: Sounders FC Training – Friday, February 10, 2012 Coach Sigi Schmid
(On the upcoming week of training and games…) "We want to get them into a Wednesday-to-Wednesday rhythm for the beginning of the year and the competition that we’ve got with Santos. You’ve got the Columbus Crew on the Wednesday, then the following Wednesday you’ve got Atlante, then the following Wednesday you’ve got Jaguares, then the following Wednesday you’ve got Santos. It allows us to build into a really good rhythm in terms of playing them. This next phase in Florida for us is about games—it’s about training and working on things in training in terms of our tactics and finishing, and things around goal like we did today. At the end of the day it’s about you making sure the first group gets games and the second group gets games to help their fitness."
(On if the rookies have to adjust from being on the college schedule…) "It’s always a little more difficult because they get in their rhythm of the seasons that they’ve had in college. So now you’ve got guys that are in here, [who], by the time we get back from Florida they’re about seven games into their regular season at that point. They usually don’t hit the wall, if you want to call it that, until usually about May or June, and that’s really when they hit the wall. Right now, everything is still new, everything is still excitable and so they’re okay for right now."
(On if he’s happy with the roster trimming process so far…) "Yeah. Obviously, we’re moving forward. There are a couple of guys that, even in the last group, that we liked, and we’ll keep our eyes on. We’ll keep monitoring them. We just felt, at the moment, we were okay in certain positions. But there’s still a couple of young guys that we think have potential and we’ll keep our eyes on them as we move forward."
(On if there have been any surprises in camp so far…) "Anybody who plays well is always a good surprise. From that standpoint, everybody is putting in a really good effort. We’re trying to make some decisions on some players. David Estrada is a player that we’ve pushed around the field a little bit into different positions, just like Roger Levesque has, but with David we decided about a little over a week ago that we’re going to concentrate with him more up front and let him play more up front. I thought he looked pretty sharp today with the goals in tight and him being up front that game. [Adam] Johansson is acclimating and we’re happy with him. [Christian] Sivebaek missed some time when we were in Arizona because of a knee, but his knee feels good now. I thought he looked pretty sharp today. All those are good surprises because everybody’s starting to look sharp. Ozzie [Alonso] and the usual suspects have done a good job. Marc Burch, I think, scored a couple of great goals today at training. There are guys there that are pushing."
(On how Brad Evans and Jeff Parke looked in Arizona…) "Obviously, we have to remember that they’ve had 12 more days of training than some of our guys have had because of their earlier start. What we tried to do is we gave Evans a day off in between there a couple days. We tried to do the same with Parke. We’re going to be cognizant of that, as well, making sure they get an appropriate day off here because they’ve been at it a little bit longer. I thought from sharpness of play, they were good.
(On the race to be the number two keeper…) "It’s a battle. Obviously, Josh Ford is injured right now and that’s unfortunate for Josh because I thought he did well for us last year. Bryan Meredith and Andrew Weber have performed very well, so we’re going to make some decisions here soon. It’s a very competitive situation."
(On if any new players will be joining them in Florida for a trial…) "No, we’ve got to see. It depends on what agent calls us when we get there and who we can bring in. Obviously, we never stop looking—that’s the case, you found that out last year. If the right situation comes along, obviously we’ll take advantage of it and have that guy on the team. Somebody’s going to lose a spot, but that’s the way it is. It’s the pros."
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Since you're probably wondering
The team has apparently decided not to make official announcements about who has been cut. From what we can tell, though, Jason Banton would qualify as the biggest name not to be with the team at this point.
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Thinking about the roster, salary cap and OBW
I want him to be healthy. I want him to score goals for us. I want him to abuse Borchers in open space and slot goal past Rimando when I travel to the away fixture this summer in Utah. But, I don’t think any of that is going to happen this season and sadly maybe ever.
I know the sentiment of many of the authors here is that you can’t cut a player while injured. That said, especially after seeing how LAG are getting every drop out of every penny available to them under the cap, the time quickly approaches where the team needs to move on.
When it’s convenient commentators here drop “this is a business” about various matter—the axiom is also true when it’s not convenient. In 2011 100k in salary paid for 2 Sanna Nyassis (not saying I want him back, just using his salary as a measure) or the recently returned Juninho or 80% of a Joel Linpere or 100% of a Jorge Perlaza (looking at how some teams spend their money).
That roster slot and cap space is so valuable, especially if we are going to catch LAG. If not now, the time to let OBW go is very close.
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At this point, I tend to agree
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Feb 10, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Close your eyes and think about OBW's header from 15 yards, and the pass he slotted through to Zakuani tearing down the wing
There is not a forward available at O’Brian’s price tag, with his skill set, just about anywhere in the world. If you were to sit down and design the perfect forward to pair with Fredy Montero (within the realm of possibility) It would pretty much be OBW. I’m well aware of his struggles in the league prior to his short appearance with the Sounders—but those appearances are just seared in my mind.
Blood clotting isn’t some sort of injury requiring rehabilitation—we could all wake up tomorrow to a press release that says “Hey guys, we figured out whats going on with O’Brian White, he’ll be practicing by this time next week.”
$100,000 wont find you a forward you like more than Fucito or Ochoa. I guarantee it.
by ClosetCoug on Feb 10, 2012 6:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
optimism is nice
but how long did his first return to practice last? 45 minutes?
$100,000 spent on a good player that can be on the pitch is better spent than $100,000 on a fantastic player that retires due to medical in April.
Optimism is nice
……but I am willing to bet a hefty wager OBW does not see the pitch this season.
by coachferrell on Feb 10, 2012 8:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I would change "this season" to ever.
The guy has had two blood clots. These things kill people all the time. If you get blood clots you go on blood thinners, and as I understand it, you can not play contact sports on blood thinners. Unless the doctors find some magical reason why he got these clots he will not play soccer again.
by seattlecubsfan on Feb 10, 2012 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
I want to be with you on this...
But, 100k buys a lot in this league. I’d rather have any of the below, than use a roster spot and 100k in cap money on someone we all hope will be back someday:
-Oduro 97k
-Omar Cummings 80k
-CJ Sapong 42k (granted a rookie contract, but still)
-Agudelo 85k
-Espindola 75k
Also, I remember the rest of OBW’s 2011, the missed chances, especially the missed sitter vs LAG.
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by _zorbthegeek on Feb 10, 2012 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
Messi and Ronaldo miss sitters, that is the least fair way to judge forward play
And do you think any of those players would start for Seattle.. or even crack the first 3 subs?
I think a 100k against the cap is a small price to pay for the chance that OBW might come back fully healthy
Yes.
Cummings and Espindola walk into the second striker spot and the other three have a shot as the #2 striker.
by sammysounder on Feb 10, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Would they start??
Would US Nat Juan Agudelo & R.O.Y. CJ Sapong start in Seattle? Without a doubt. Espindola was a beast for RSL when they booted us unceremoniously from the playoffs. In 2011 Oduro scored 12 goals for CF97, aka as many goals as Montero in league play. 100k can buy soooooo much production in MLS.
Would anyone here bet any amount of money that OBW will produce 12 goals this season?
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by _zorbthegeek on Feb 10, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
You're assuming that these guys would pair well with Montero
Which they might (I have never been good at determining individual talent), but they also could completely cancel him out.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Feb 10, 2012 11:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I just want to know
what the heck is going on? We get vague generalities regarding his condition, but absolutely no tangible information. Is there still a clot? Is he still just recovering from the multiple surgeries that he had to undergo? If none of the above, then what? I realize this is also a HIPA issue, but it’s maddening to get little or no actual information regarding his recovery. Where he is in that recovery. What exactly is holding him back? What are they waiting to see? How are they moving forward in the process. All of that has a huge bearing on my perception (and I’m supposing other’s) on whether or not we should try to hang in there with him.
Instead we get: OBW is still unavailable for play and nothing else.
It's definitely still related to the clotting
Beyond that, I’m not sure. But, at the end of the day, I’m not so sure how high on the list “fans want to know if he’s worth keeping or not” is on the list in this particular case.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Feb 11, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
Harlington Guiterres
Doing a little research on Guiterres, I found an article from FEB 1 on SSFC Rumors. In the article the site quoted a Honduran paper, La Tribuna, saying that Ever Alvarado was coming for a 10 day trial but Guiterres was coming to play the season with the Sounders new U23 squad. Looking at the La Tribuna article, it does appear that Guiterres may indeed be coming to play for the U23 squad. As always, translation is an iffy thing, but this would offer another explanation of why Guiterres is still training with the parent club while Avarado has returned to Honduras.
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As an aside
Harlinton wasn’t playing for the Real Espana senior team, so since they don’t need him they might as well let him train.
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If it's the US
yes and I don’t mean that in a disparaging way (as in who wouldn’t jump at the chance to come here?). But plenty of players essentially play for “nothing” all the time. I’d say it’s very doubtful he’s not getting some kind of compensation (obviously a living stipend). Might simply be that his club team or the national team is funding his “development.” Then again, I may just be speculating…. ; )
Which pro do you know that literally choose to go from pro contract to amateur?
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None
Good question. But I’m fairly certain I could find one, or even two or three. When going down means the opportunity to go farther up than you’ve ever been before…. that’s when it makes sense. I’d point out that Zakuani had a pro contract, lost it, but apparently DID have opportunities to continue at a lower level in England. He chose to come to the US, go to school, and find a way back in that way. No a terribly good example, I know, but one that does illustrate the “going down to come back up” theory I’m weakly trying to offer! ; )
As Mr. Smith so aptly pointed out, an education can trump the short-term money.
This is true
It’s quite a non-traditional path, and one that I know has caused some young pros to laugh at.
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a sounder specialty
It seems the roundabout untraditional is the norm when you look at the sounders roster and history. When you look at many of our biggest signings they all were addressing random needs of players as well as right time and place. Keller to start us off, if the sounders joined the league two years earlier or later we may not of had him at the helm. Rosales random clause or some such allowed us to get him for a huge bargain and he loves us for the opportunity too. Zakuani as mentioned above. N’kufo family reasons brought him here. Gspurning wanting stability. Friberg wanting adventure. Sivebaek not fitting in the system at his old club. Neagle up down up. I believe Fucito was released and then resigned. Of course there are traditional signings too Montero, hurtado, Cato, Alonso and Fernandez. I think that when you league is not top tier and you are relatively geographically remote and you cannot throw tons of money at players you have to find the one player in Sweden, Denmark and Greece that is looking for something new or different. I think this is a sign of the GM doing a great job.
by Calin David on Feb 11, 2012 10:52 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Alonso actually seems the most unusual to me, just story-wise.
Between sneaking away from Wal-Mart to Chivas basically passing on him. The whole thing is quite unusual.
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by AKSupporter on Feb 12, 2012 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
An education
The one thing that might make sense in this context is college. I don’t know what Harlington’s status is relative to college eligibility, but if he’s eligible, this might equate to a college try out. For example play for Sounders U23s and a college like UW.
by Abbott Smith on Feb 11, 2012 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
He barely speaks English
I really doubt he’s coming here to go to college.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Feb 11, 2012 8:36 AM PST up reply actions
There are some great ESL programs in the area
Green River CC as an example.
by Dizzo on Feb 11, 2012 9:11 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sounds like Sigi is trying to light a fire under the LBs . . .
. . . and Estrada is still the non-starter making the strongest demand for more time in the rotation.
Whither Ochoa? I know he has a newborn baby and all, but his name sure hasn’t come up much in camp reports. Something going on there?
I actually talked to Ochoa today
We’ll have that up later
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taking stock
Looking at my roster spreadsheet (I’m a scientist, sue me) it looks like the 28 contracted guys are still there along with the 2 SuperDraft picks (Duran and Sodade), Andy Rose (suppl Draft), Weber, Caskey (concussion), Gutierres (U-23?).
How has Rose looked? He and Weber are the two that look most likely to break into that 28+2 draft list.
Here’s what I’ve got a for a projected 30 man roster:
GK (3): Gspurning, Weber, Meredith
FB (4): Johannson, Gonzo, Burch, Tetteh
CB (5): Parke, JKH, Ianni, Scott, Duran
CM (6): Alonso, Evans, Carrasco, Seamon, Sanyang, Rose
WM (6): Rosales, Fernandez, Neagle, Sivebaek, Zakuani, Cato
Fwd (6): Montero, Fucito, Ochoa, Levesque, Estrada, Sodade
IR: White
Cut: Caskey, Gutierres, Ford (Kitsap anyone?)
FB looks thin, but Levesque, Sanyang, Scott, Duran Evans and Estrada have all played RB. Sanyang has also played CB.
Is there the option to renegotiate OBW’s contract down to league minimum for this year with a team option to pick him up at 100K for next season?
That may sound harsh, but it would give him time to recoup on the IR while still getting paid and health benefits. if he comes back this year and plays he can pick up money next year. I don’t see see how SSFC keep him on the roster at a 100K hit as there’s no reason to believe he can play this year or possibly ever again. No team is going to pick him up at 100K so if he won’t renegotiate the team may have to just cut him. Or would they have had to do this before the suppl draft? I would love to have the OBW of last March on this team, but I’m a pragmatist.
Could Caskey still be with the team on the IR?
Concussions could linger for a while. As we have discussed in previous posts.
I would imagine that Zakuani starts the season on IR
But that seems like a pretty realistic picture of the roster.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Feb 10, 2012 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
If he starts on IR who fills his roster spot?
I imagine they would avoid just leaving it open when there’s depth to be had.
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by s0merand0mdude on Feb 10, 2012 11:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Actually, they probably leave it open
I’m guessing the Sounders open the season with 28 guys on the active roster.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Feb 10, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
Rose played with the Second team against Vancouver
Duran, Rose and Weber all appear to be having good camps. They all appear to be getting looks with the second team. Rose did well in the fitness testing and seems to have a grasp of what it takes to be a pro. Rose, Sanyang, Tetteh and Cato are all Internationals. One of them may lose out simply due to the limits on Internationals. But at this point, Rose may have moved ahead of Sanyang and maybe even Tetteh. I know Tetteh missed Arizona due to an injury, but he has been conspicuously absent from all of the reports. The last I remember hearing was a comment from Sigi before Arizona that sounded suspiciously like Tetteh needed to prove himself worthy of a roster spot.
by Abbott Smith on Feb 11, 2012 7:10 AM PST up reply actions
Remember for that game Ianni, Sivebaek and Zakuani were held out
due to injury.
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I know nothing about Tetteh
but to those who may have a better take on him…. is it possible that the guy is just really averse to playing defense and, as a result, doesn’t really have his heart and soul poured into the switch? Or is it really that he’s just not getting up to speed with the pro game?
while he played LB in a 4 back line in college
If you looked at his average position it would probably be most similar to a box-to-box left mid.
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True
But Duran and Rose were the ones chosen to fill in over other options.
by Abbott Smith on Feb 11, 2012 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm
On the same token I’m not looking for Jeff Parke or the other centerback to make a rambling 30 yard run slashing past three players in middle of the midfield and having a shot from the 20.
I’m pretty sure if Sanna Nyassi were a centerback he would attempt this
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Parke did do this once last year
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What happened to Ngassa?
Wasn’t the Tanzanian supposed to be in training with the team? Did he come and go and I missed it?
you didn't miss him
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Feb 11, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions
His team shot up from mid-table to 2nd
and that may have changed things
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He scored at least once
it’s very hard to get boxscores from Tanzania. The main forward at Azam has 11 goals on the year on a team with only 18. Having Ngassa, who won a golden boot, as an option changes their fortunes.
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